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| Aug-31-05 | | aw1988: Once again, csmath possesses the intelligence of a peanut. <steveb1000> He is very charismatic. |
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| Aug-31-05 | | GBKnight: <steveb1000> In 1977 Korchnoi beat Petrosian, Polugaevsky, and then Spassky in a very ill-tempered Candidates final match (if my memory serves me correctly). In 1980 he again beat Petrosian and Polugaevsky, followed by Huebner in the final. Not to take anything away from Korchnoi, but I think most of these players were past their peak at this time, the younger generation (especially Jan Timman) never quite reached the heights, and the chess world was waiting for the 'next K' to arrive, which he duly did in time for the 1984 match. In short, maybe Korchnoi was in the right place at the right time. |
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| Aug-31-05 | | aw1988: Hmm, K's? Korchnoi, Karpov, Kasparov, Kramnik? :)
And... maybe... Karjakin!?!?!? |
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| Aug-31-05 | | you vs yourself: <aw1988> I was thinking you would mention kosteniuk! But Karjakin isn't a bad choice. I see an "elite" future for him. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | steveb1000: Thanks GBKnight- I guess if Smyslov could nearly do it around that time, it's no surprise Korchnoi did so well. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | colles: Actually Korchnoi was considered,along with Geller and Brontein, already "old" in the late 60's by the Soviet gerarchies that preferred favouring Spasski and Stein allowing them to train with better supporting teams and partecipating to the best tournaments. Nonetheless he was able get to win two candidate selections, after he escaped from the Soviet Union at the age of 47 and 50! So he didnt't became good suddenly, as he was the n.1 in the world in the middle '60, the n.2 in the years of te world matches and has showed to be the strongest player ever over 60.
To me he is the strongest player not to have become world champion, and I consider him overall stronger than Euwe and Smyslov. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | GBKnight: Yes, I had forgotten about his defection from the old Soviet Union in 1976. That certainly gave him a new lease of life. I agree, Korchnoi is probably the strongest player never to become World Champion.
So far. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | euripides: In the 1960s, Korchnoi was considered to be exceptionally thorough in analysis but ropey in judgement. Spassky reportedly said that in tricky positions 'Korchnoi is always wrong'. I think his great achievement was that he was able to use his vast experience to develop his intuition, so that the improvement in the intuitive side of his game compensated for the decline in calculating power that all players experience. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | WMD: <In the 1960s, Korchnoi was considered to be exceptionally thorough in analysis but ropey in judgement. Spassky reportedly said that in tricky positions 'Korchnoi is always wrong'.> And that's the sum of your evidence? Utter bunk. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | aw1988: With Korchnoy's strength in tricky positions being "always wrong" cannot be. What is this nonsense? |
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| Sep-01-05 | | euripides: 'Tricky' here means strategically tricky. The source is an interview of Larsen, who was agreeing with Spassky. It is supported by Korchnoi himself, in a recent New in Chess, where he revisits his game against Fischer in 1962 and talks about his 'scholastic, non-concrete evaluation of positions'. It may or may not be an accurate assessment, but (as I said) it was certainly his reputation in the 1960s. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | aw1988: Oh, I did read that. I happen to, well, not disagree, but see Korchnoi as an experienced fighter with an obvious love for the game. |
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| Sep-01-05 | | euripides: <aw> to be sure - the assessments are not incompatible. |
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| Sep-17-05 | | suenteus po 147: Potential caption for Korchnoi's picture: "Look, kid, if you're going to adjust my pieces, please stop eating Cheetos." |
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| Sep-18-05 | | PizzatheHut: Another potential caption: "zzzzz...snore...zzzzzz" |
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| Sep-29-05 | | percyblakeney: Korchnoi on San Luis, Kramnik and so on:
http://www.e3e5.com/eng/petersburg/... |
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| Oct-01-05 | | hidude: does anyone play the benomi??? |
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| Oct-30-05 | | lopium: I've ever played that with black, when I started chess. I mean, old benoni. |
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Oct-30-05
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| Nov-04-05 | | Albertan: Korchnoi has played the Benoni rarely.Check out this game: Ivkov vs Korchnoi, 1972
"Benoni" is a Hebrew term meaning "son of sorrow". GM's such as DeFirmian have played the Benoni their entire careers, making sure to avoid the Taimanov Variation Benoni, Taimanov Variation (A67) |
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| Nov-14-05 | | netlava: Nice to see that this old guy is still alive. |
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| Nov-14-05 | | PARACONT1: <GBKnight> Makes sense. I wonder if Fischer beat the Soviets for the same reasons - all the Soviets who beat him in the late 50s and 60s grew older and weaker and couldn't seriously challenge him until Karpov emerged, and when that happened Fischer chickened out. Note: Hubner peaked at 1980 while in his mid30s - he's a younger generation GM. <steveb1000> Don't forget Philidor was dominating chess in his 60s and 70s! <suenteus> another caption: "Vat iz thiz board vit squares all about?" |
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| Nov-14-05 | | KingG: <PARACONT1> <I wonder if Fischer beat the Soviets for the same reasons - all the Soviets who beat him in the late 50s and 60s grew older and weaker and couldn't seriously challenge him until Karpov emerged, and when that happened Fischer chickened out.> For once i more or less agree with you. |
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| Nov-14-05 | | PARACONT1: <KingG> Of course Fischer was also Jewish, whose mental superiority greatly helped him beat those Russians! (Just kidding this time, King:P) |
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| Nov-14-05 | | KingG: <PARACONT1> lol. But a lot of the Russians were Jewish as well, so wouldn't that factor cancel itself out? |
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