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| Oct-10-03 | | talchess2003: <Diggity Dawg> If another American emerges with the same mental equipment that Morphy had, that person would eventually be world champion.
Wouldn't Fischer fit this description? Morphy was a genius; he went insane. Fischer was a genius; he always was insane... |
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| Oct-10-03 | | Kenkaku: Almost all of the great American players ended up becoming chess tragedies to one degree or another: Morphy, Fischer, Pillsbury, Fine (though because he gave up chess). Perhaps only Reshevsky was not in this category, though he only played in a candidates tournament once in the 1950s for whatever reason. |
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| Oct-11-03 | | tud: Paul Morphy is from New Orleans ! No kidding. I bet he has of french origin. Reshevski qualified in 1968 tournament again and it was a great player starting 1936. |
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| Oct-11-03 | | Shadout Mapes: I always considered Marshall to be a great American player. Unfortuanatly, he was overshadowed by many others, but he was certainly in the top 10 in the world for several years. |
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| Oct-11-03 | | Kenkaku: Marshall was indeed a great player, but I was more going for those who were/would have been serious contenders for the world title in a match. |
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| Oct-14-03 | | MadMorphy: I think the sudden death of Morphy's father "Alonzo" contributed mostly to Morphy's depression. |
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| Oct-15-03 | | uponthehill: They say that two factors could have decisive influence on Morphy's mental illnes (at the beginning it has a form of melancholy, then opressive mania). First preasumption is that he collapsed when father of his true love rejected Morphy's request for a wedding. As a reason he said that Morphy is a chessplayer, and the chessplayer is not a job of a real and strong man, who could maintain his daughter and provide her a welfare and safety. Second hypothesis is the fact, that Morphy had problems with lawyer's career. People in his times were saying that because he is a great chessplayer he cannot be also a good lawyer, there would be too much. He never suceed as a barrister although he finished study in 2 years and had an wonderful memory. |
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| Oct-18-03 | | MadMorphy: Brimmed Hat...into the face....death from "brain conjestion"...This sounds like the beginning to a Horror show...I would say the death of his father in this particular manner bore greater weight than wedding rejection and propper law practice. |
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| Dec-03-03 | | dummies2m0rphy: Is it Morphy think about 11 hours for a move when he played with Anderson?
This i read from a chess book.I can't believe about that. |
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Dec-03-03
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| Dec-03-03 | | InspiredByMorphy: Anybody notice that Fischer said "Morphy was the best", and never played
e5 as black against e4. I believe Fischer is afraid of losing to the Kings gambit. Isnt if funny how Fischer published a book called "A bust to the kings gambit", yet he never even played
any oh his examples in any match, because hes too afraid to play e5 against e4 . Morphy was a man willing to take risks and play real chess. The kings gambit is not for the faint hearted and Morphy played it the best. |
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| Dec-03-03 | | InspiredByMorphy: I believe a main cause of Morphys depression was the civil war
in his homeland affecting his family, him not being able to be with them. Further more the pressure to play anyone and everyone who feels theyve got something to prove, and then being poor losers. I think the attitudes of a lot of chess players towards Morphy due to his age, irritated him. After they would lose they would say "Morphys openings were better", when in truth anybody who knows Morphys style knows that the opening was not his strong suit. It was the middle game he thrived in most. Its rare Morphy has to depend on his endgame skill to win. |
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| Dec-03-03 | | popski: Hehe, Sneaky, good story!! |
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| Dec-03-03 | | technical draw: <Chessgames.com> In Morphy's record above, it shows: Games in database 353. Yet if you add the win, loss, draw results they add up to 216. What happened to the other 137? |
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Dec-03-03
| | Sneaky: technical, you need to read the fine print... <137 exhibition games, blitz games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.> |
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Dec-03-03
| | Sneaky: I guess that odds games make up a large number of those 137. |
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| Dec-03-03 | | technical draw: Thanks sneaky, Just saw the fine print. Hmmm, I better check my mortgage papers. |
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| Dec-03-03 | | InspiredByMorphy: Most opponents could not beat Morphy on level terms, hence he offered odds to many. The funny thing is most consider odds to be a disadvantage for black ( the side which morphy accepted odds most of the time - usually the Queen Knight), yet Morphy knew how to turn it into his advantage. For instance if the Queen Knight is gone, the Queen rook can get into the game faster than usual. I was told that a Double Muzio gambit when played with no queen knight as white is a forced win. Demonstrated finely by Morphy in a select couple of his odds games. |
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| Dec-03-03 | | Resignation Trap: InspiredByMorphy, your message stating that Fischer "never played e5 as black against e4 is false. Also, Fischer's "bust" to the King's Gambit was a magazine article, not a book. He wrote the article shortly after Spassky defeated him with a King's Gambit. The rest of my message is under kibitzing about Robert J Fischer. |
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| Dec-04-03 | | InspiredByMorphy: Thank you Resignation Trap. I apologize. Its always nice to learn something new and I in no way meant to disrespect Fischer. |
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| Dec-04-03 | | clifton: Did Morphy ever open with 1.d4? |
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| Dec-04-03 | | dummies2m0rphy: Re:clifton
No,all white games played by Morphy was opened with e5.He ussually played King Gambit,Evans Gambit,Two Knights Defense & also Philidor Defense. |
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| Dec-04-03 | | refutor: <I was told that a Double Muzio gambit when played with no queen knight as white is a forced win.> not quite a forced win, but definitely more pleasant for white. unless black can force a queen trade, in which case black's up 3 pieces :) try it against your favorite 2600 strength chess computer... |
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| Dec-04-03 | | InspiredByMorphy: Its too bad we dont have Morphys treatment against the english as black,
and the ruy lopez exchange as black.
In the latter I believe he would have played the best move, Bg5. Anyone else have a second opinion of how he would have treated either of these openings as black? |
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| Dec-12-03 | | clifton: He may have played e5 or f5 in response to the english, although no one can be sure. |
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