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|Dec-17-09|| ||lancenew: David is the new King of England!|
|Dec-24-09|| ||mysql: Howell's live rating is 2605.9. Glad he's back on the 2600s. I thought he was on a slump.|
|Dec-24-09|| ||jamesmaskell: His rating was always at risk because of his being highly rated relatively speaking in the World Juniors. His losses hurt his rating hard.|
|Jan-25-10|| ||geezerbloke: <HeMateMe> whilst your inference may be correct in this case, it is quite normal to have a school uniform in England regardless whether it is public or not.|
|May-31-10|| ||Archswindler: <HeMateMe: In the USA that would be called "a private school,", but over there i think the order is reversed, their schools for the regular kids are called "private school", and the ones for those with more talent (or money for tuition) are called "public schools.">|
Private schools are called public schools, but not vice versa. State schools in England are mostly called Comprehensives.
|Jun-01-10|| ||HeMateMe: Thanks, my only source on the subject is rock biographies, the Mods and Rockers, of 1960s England. I guess thats a bit dated, huh?|
|Jun-04-10|| ||Archswindler: <I guess thats a bit dated, huh?>|
Not really. State schools have never been called private schools.
|Jun-04-10|| ||HeMateMe: Some american authors think that the british and American categorization of public/private schools are the reverse of each other. Bizarro world...|
|Jun-05-10|| ||Archswindler: The term 'public school' is more of a historical legacy, rather than a deliberate inversion designed to confuse foreigners.|
|Jun-05-10|| ||HeMateMe: You've never been to Paris. There's ALWAYS someone in Europe trying to confuse foreigners.|
|Jul-06-10|| ||Nina Myers: <David maintains a chess blog at http://davidhowellchess.blogspot.com/ |
<Last post: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 >>
Maintenance is a bit different.
|Dec-18-10|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <KINGSCRUSHER> at the <London Classic 2010>:|
Exclusive interviews with <Luke McShane>
|Sep-16-11|| ||ketchuplover: Good luck at the london Classic|
|Dec-11-11|| ||Penguincw: Enjoy your bye. You can still be in 8th place (assuming Adams doesn't create an upset with Nakamura).|
|Apr-03-12|| ||Nightsurfer: Dear <WMD>, I have read your comment from <June 28th, 2006> - <"... British chess fans have followed David's career until he's become what he is now - a bloody disappointment ..."> only today. And now I have to ask you to please be not too harsh with <David Howell> since he has won a real !<World Championship of Chess>! already ... namely the World Championship of <Circular Chess> in 2002.|
Herewith the link that leads to a diagram that depicts the starting-out position of CIRCUKAR CHESS:
Herewith two sources that confirm the early triumph of <David Howell> - when he has only been 11 years old: a German-language feature, namely http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circul...
At the end of the foregoing feature there the fan will find two games of CIRCULAR CHESS that have been played during World Championships, please compare once more again http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circul...
I have tried out CIRCULAR CHESS, and I can say: IT IS PURE FUN!!
|Apr-03-12|| ||Nightsurfer: One of those two game records of CIRCULAR CHESS that have been discussed in the German-language feature http://www.chessbase.de/nachrichten... - namely the World Championship encounter at Lincoln, UK, on May 14th, 2000, between <Francis Bowers (White)> the later World Champion <Herman Kok Black)> - has been discussed in the English-language feature as follows: http://www.chessvariants.org/column... - and there are some nice diagrams that help to understand what was going on during that very game.|
|Jul-15-12|| ||twinlark: Congratulations to GM Howell winning Leiden - a perfect tune-up for the Olympiad.|
|Sep-19-12|| ||Conrad93: Oh my God! This guy has "normal" teeth.
Someone quick! Make him superficial!
|Jan-04-13|| ||Richard Taylor: My father went to a Polytech in London about 1917 or so, I think my uncle got into a public school or at least a more "prestigious" one. One of my father's reasons for leaving England was the (more obvious) class system. Also I think he wanted to get away from his father. And there seemed to be more opportunities in NZ but not too long after getting here the Depression hit and it was bad here as in the US and e.g. Germany (especially)...|
But Public Schools here in NZ are the norm with some private schools. Whereas a Public School in England usually meant one for the rich or the "upper classes". Tories as the rich or right wing are or used to be called here.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Once: Hmmm ... seems to be some confusion here. As a dyed in the wool Brit, let's see if I can help...|
Most people in the UK are educated in state schools. These cost nothing to attend - they are paid for by the state from general taxation.
We also have a number of fee-paying schools. These are generally known as "independent schools" because they are independent of Government funding. Any parent can choose to send their child to an independent school if they can afford it. Most of the independents also run some kind of bursary or scholarship scheme where children from less well-off families can receive a reduction of some or all of the costs.
The top 10% of the independents (roughly) are also known as public schools. The most famous of these are Winchester, Eton and Charterhous (which coincidentally is about 200 yards from where I am sitting right now).
"Private school" is another term for independent school.
David Howell was educated in Eastbourne College, which is both an independent/ private school and a public school.
After normal school (state or independent) at the age of 18 children in the UK can then go on to further education. This used to mean a choice between universities and polytechnical colleges. Universities tended to focus on academic subject and polys on more vocational subjects.
But in recent years polys have been allowed to become universities and the distinction between them has blurred. A little.
But polys are not schools. They are colleges of further education.
A school can be both a private school and a public school. I know that sounds odd, but it's just the way it is. State schools are not public schools, even though the general public send their kids there.
Hope that helps.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Dionysius1: Bravo <Once> - good summary. Only thing I would add is that <Any parent can choose to send their child to an independent school if they can afford it> AND the child can pass the entrance exam.|
|Jan-06-13|| ||kellmano: I didn't know that the top 10% of private schools were public schools. I thought 'public school' referred to any 'private school', where the public could not send their children.|
Incidentally, I think it's 7% of students go to independent schools and 14% of teachers work in independent schools. Despite being for the super wealthy, they are tax exempt due to an archaic principle of British Law (they are classified as charities due to their relation to education).
|Jan-06-13|| ||Once: <Dionysius1> That's true, although in the current economic climate I get the sense that the schools aren't being as fussy as they used to be about the entrance exams.|
<kelmmano> The class sizes in independent schools tend to be smaller than state schools, which is why there is a higher teacher-pupil ratio. It's one of the things that you are paying extra for.
It's a fair point about the tax exempt status of independent schools. But then again they are funded almost entirely by the parents who have (hopefully) paid their taxes. Profits made by the schools usually go into improvements to the school.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Dionysius1: True though - to count as a Public School, it has to be a member of the Headmaster's and Headmistress' Conference, which I think is by invitation only.|
|Feb-12-13|| ||Nightsurfer: I have to do a slight modification with regard to my two postings on <Apr-03-12>: yes, it is true that <David Howell> has become World Champion of <Circular> Chess (!!) back in 2002, and that is quite an achievement. On the other hand that is a rather modest achievement in comparison to Francis Bowers who - after have become World Champion of <Circular> Chess for the first time in 1997 - is actually the 7 times World Champion of <Circular> Chess, thus making look the giant Howard Staunton look like a dwarf ...|
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