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|Jul-15-12|| ||twinlark: Congratulations to GM Howell winning Leiden - a perfect tune-up for the Olympiad.|
|Sep-19-12|| ||Conrad93: Oh my God! This guy has "normal" teeth.
Someone quick! Make him superficial!
|Jan-04-13|| ||Richard Taylor: My father went to a Polytech in London about 1917 or so, I think my uncle got into a public school or at least a more "prestigious" one. One of my father's reasons for leaving England was the (more obvious) class system. Also I think he wanted to get away from his father. And there seemed to be more opportunities in NZ but not too long after getting here the Depression hit and it was bad here as in the US and e.g. Germany (especially)...|
But Public Schools here in NZ are the norm with some private schools. Whereas a Public School in England usually meant one for the rich or the "upper classes". Tories as the rich or right wing are or used to be called here.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Once: Hmmm ... seems to be some confusion here. As a dyed in the wool Brit, let's see if I can help...|
Most people in the UK are educated in state schools. These cost nothing to attend - they are paid for by the state from general taxation.
We also have a number of fee-paying schools. These are generally known as "independent schools" because they are independent of Government funding. Any parent can choose to send their child to an independent school if they can afford it. Most of the independents also run some kind of bursary or scholarship scheme where children from less well-off families can receive a reduction of some or all of the costs.
The top 10% of the independents (roughly) are also known as public schools. The most famous of these are Winchester, Eton and Charterhous (which coincidentally is about 200 yards from where I am sitting right now).
"Private school" is another term for independent school.
David Howell was educated in Eastbourne College, which is both an independent/ private school and a public school.
After normal school (state or independent) at the age of 18 children in the UK can then go on to further education. This used to mean a choice between universities and polytechnical colleges. Universities tended to focus on academic subject and polys on more vocational subjects.
But in recent years polys have been allowed to become universities and the distinction between them has blurred. A little.
But polys are not schools. They are colleges of further education.
A school can be both a private school and a public school. I know that sounds odd, but it's just the way it is. State schools are not public schools, even though the general public send their kids there.
Hope that helps.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Dionysius1: Bravo <Once> - good summary. Only thing I would add is that <Any parent can choose to send their child to an independent school if they can afford it> AND the child can pass the entrance exam.|
|Jan-06-13|| ||kellmano: I didn't know that the top 10% of private schools were public schools. I thought 'public school' referred to any 'private school', where the public could not send their children.|
Incidentally, I think it's 7% of students go to independent schools and 14% of teachers work in independent schools. Despite being for the super wealthy, they are tax exempt due to an archaic principle of British Law (they are classified as charities due to their relation to education).
|Jan-06-13|| ||Once: <Dionysius1> That's true, although in the current economic climate I get the sense that the schools aren't being as fussy as they used to be about the entrance exams.|
<kelmmano> The class sizes in independent schools tend to be smaller than state schools, which is why there is a higher teacher-pupil ratio. It's one of the things that you are paying extra for.
It's a fair point about the tax exempt status of independent schools. But then again they are funded almost entirely by the parents who have (hopefully) paid their taxes. Profits made by the schools usually go into improvements to the school.
|Jan-06-13|| ||Dionysius1: True though - to count as a Public School, it has to be a member of the Headmaster's and Headmistress' Conference, which I think is by invitation only.|
|Feb-12-13|| ||Nightsurfer: I have to do a slight modification with regard to my two postings on <Apr-03-12>: yes, it is true that <David Howell> has become World Champion of <Circular> Chess (!!) back in 2002, and that is quite an achievement. On the other hand that is a rather modest achievement in comparison to Francis Bowers who - after have become World Champion of <Circular> Chess for the first time in 1997 - is actually the 7 times World Champion of <Circular> Chess, thus making look the giant Howard Staunton look like a dwarf ...|
|Aug-07-13|| ||kellmano: The bio says <David maintains a chess blog at http://davidhowellchess.blogspot.com/
Given that the last post is June 2004 this is a strange use of the word 'maintains'
|Aug-07-13|| ||Pulo y Gata: Maybe the 'maintain' pertains to the blog not being close yet.|
|Aug-07-13|| ||torrefan: or the bio was written on or before June 2004|
|Aug-09-13|| ||hellopolgar: i think he just broke 2650 with his recent success at the 100th British Championship (2013)|
|Aug-16-13|| ||Caissanist: Any Brits out there willing to write a real bio for this player? The last information on his playing career in it is from 2002, when he was 11 years old.|
|Oct-30-13|| ||teddyo: Pure toff|
|Nov-14-13|| ||YoungEd: When he plays O-O: Howell's Moving Castle.|
|Nov-14-13|| ||whiteshark: He lost today against Moiseenko at the ETCC, Warsaw.|
|Nov-14-13|| ||RedShield: <Pure toff>
With the middle names <Wei Lang>!?
|Nov-14-13|| ||waustad: Happy b'day! Enjoy another instance of the prime of life.|
|Nov-14-13|| ||Penguincw: Happy 23rd birthday to one of the greatest players in the U.K.!|
|Nov-14-13|| ||JustAnotherPatzer: Many Happy Returns David and congratulations on winning the centenary 100th British Championship! May you go from strength to strength.|
|Oct-11-14|| ||waustad: His outstanding result so far at Pokerstars Isle of Man International Chess Tournament 2014 will give him his personal highest rating, whatever happens tomorrow against Nigel Short. A draw would guarantee that he is equal first, though I don't know how the money is divided based on tiebreaks.|
|Oct-14-14|| ||waustad: I thought of posting this on the tournament page, but it has gone off on some sort of poker rant. Even with his final round loss to GM Short, he would up equal 2-5. I didn't see any tiebreak method selected on the chess-results page, so they are probably just dividing the money. He picked up 8 elo giving him a personal best rating of 2665. Looking that up I found out that to say GM Howell is not enough information, since there is also James Clifford Howell http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?....|
|Oct-28-14|| ||Richard Taylor: < Once: Hmmm ... seems to be some confusion here. As a dyed in the wool Brit, let's see if I can help...
Most people in the UK are educated in state schools. These cost nothing to attend - they are paid for by the state from general taxation. ...>|
I already understood this. My father told me of this. He wasn't bitter about that as such although he didn't like the obvious or more obvious British class system, he, unlike me, was not very "socialistic": so he liked and disliked aspects of England.
The other contradiction or confusion is that rugby was played more by the "upper" classes whereas here in the "colonies" it is a working class (although here the myth is to perpetuate the idea that there are no classes which is nonsense, there are, but perhaps inter-personally kiwis are less obviously class minded in a negative sense, but that is moot).
So whereas soccer* was more or less a working class game in England it is or was considered here a game for "sissies". In fact Rugby League was (is?) played here more by working class people.
I am completely uninterested in most sports so I don't care, although I played soccer for a short time.
Interestingly chess is a game where "class" or what one's bank balance is is of little consequence. In my club I sometimes sat down to play players who were either millionaires or were CEO's of big companies, or I played people who were on Government "benefits". Regardless, this had no effect on my attitude to them or the way I played my game. I found "good" people of whatever economic or aristocratic "boast".
*Despite my disinterest, I refuse to call soccer anything other than soccer.
I was brought up knowing about soccer. None of these new things or terms for me. Bring back crank shaft handles.
|Oct-28-14|| ||Richard Taylor: In any case, David Howell, bless him, is playing here in the NZ Open
(Championships) in Jan.
I doubt I will play him as he is at least 800 points above me! (And 43 years younger). I might fluke it though if I fluke rd 1 with a cheapo...then Fortune comes to my aid in rd 2...one can only dream.
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