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Oct-01-03
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| Benzol: <AdrianP> I've put a game up elsewhere for you to look at. One of these days I'll eventually figure out how to do it like you do. Until then please bear with me. |
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Oct-01-03
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| AdrianP: <Benzol> To put a game link in a message, go to the game, copy the page address to the clipboard and then paste it in the message... although it will look like this "http: // www.chessgames.com/perl/chessplayer..." it should come out like this Isidor Gunsberg |
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Oct-03-03
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| Benzol: <AdrianP> Thanks for that. I going to have to sort out copy and paste bit yet,but we'll see how it goes. I'm sorry if I've a bid tardy with this reply, but it was 1 o'clock in the morning when I was last speaking to you and I've been away on business for the last two days and only returned tonight. |
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| Jun-09-04 |
| zb2cr: <Benzol>, I'm not entirely sure you have the score of Gunsberg's match against Steinitz right. This is from memory of a article by Soltis I read more than 20 years ago, so don't shoot me if I'm incorrect. The article claimed that the match was so tight with 3 games to go that Steinitz floated the idea of a "joint championship" if the match finished with a tie score. Further, AFAIR, the article claimed that if Gunsberg went all out for a win in the final game, he could have tied the match. So people were surprised when he came out playing passively, exchanging pieces quickly, and agreed to a quick draw. The explanation? Gunsberg was a newspaperman, and had cabled his paper 1/2 hour before the final game of the match that Steinitz had retained his title. Thus, he threw away a chance at being "joint World champion" for a minor journalistic scoop. I don't see how that scenario could have happened with Gunsberg having 4 wins & six losses & drawing the final game. |
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Jun-09-04
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| Benzol: <zb2cr> It's me that needs to be shot! I was talking to <Adrian> at 1pm and was pretty tired at that stage. The match was actually contested over 19 games not 20 as I previously posted. After 16 games Gunsberg had 4 wins against Steinitz' 5 so the Soltis article is correct in that respect. However, with Steinitz winning game 18 he went 2 points into the lead. Hope this clears up the mystery. |
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| Jun-10-04 |
| zb2cr: <Benzol> Ah, a great light dawns. Thanks. |
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Jan-01-05
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| Benzol: Isidor Arthur Gunsberg
Born 2nd November 1854 in Budapest
Died 2nd May 1930 in London
World Championship Challenger in 1891 he was also German champion in 1885. |
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Apr-22-05
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| Honza Cervenka: Gunsberg had quite impressive results in the second half of 1880s starting with Hamburg 1885 where he surprisingly won the first prize beating Blackburne and Tarrasch but he never became much popular especially because of his style which was not very attractive. His play was rather positional and defensive although he did not lack of great combinative talent. After the match with Steinitz Gunsberg's results strongly deteriorated and he never get any close to his successes from period 1885-1890. He was also a chess editor of London's "Daily News". |
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Jul-12-05
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| Knight13: Isidor Gunsberb, the mind behind Mephisto. |
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Jul-16-05
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| vonKrolock: Gunsberg, in his Chess column on the "Daily Telegraph" (from London) in 1915, commented about a <sic> 'hostile series' of coincidences involving the Chess problems he had published with so-called 'cooks' (second undesirable solutions); a week later, appeared in another - rival - newspaper's Chess column a note weaving some considerations on the fact; Gunsberg, feeling the contents derogatory against his reputation, sued for libel, in front of the British High Court, the author of the mentioned note. Lively account and impressive documentation of this episode on-line, presented by E. Winter - here http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... Chess Note number 3824 - A little curiosity: Gunsberg composed himself some Chess Problems or Studies?! - Currently I cannot find any example... |
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Dec-06-05
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| percyblakeney: Having won Hamburg 1885 (ahead of players like Tarrasch and Blackburne) Gunsberg the following year challenged Amos Burn to a match. Burn claimed that Gunsberg wasn’t entitled to challenge him since Burn had won the two tournaments where they both had participated, while Gunsberg had finished third. Burn stated that he only would accept the challenge if Gunsberg first won matches against both the players that had finished second in these tournaments (Zukertort and Schallopp). (From Richard Forster's book on Burn.) Gunsberg instead played and won matches against among others Blackburne (5-2) and Bird (5-1), and his results in the end of the 1880’s are good enough to make him the best player in the world for a short period of 1889 according to Chessmetrics. In 1890 Gunsberg drew a match with Chigorin (9-9) and played his World Championship match against Steinitz, leading 2-1 after 5 games and being as close as 4-5 after 17 before finishing +4 -6 =9. After this he never had any really good results. |
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| Jan-05-06 |
| BIDMONFA: Isidor Gunsberg GUNSBERG, Isidor
http://www.bidmonfa.com/GUNSBERG.htm
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| Mar-17-06 |
| AlexanderMorphy: well this guy should at least be as famous as chigorin! wow looking at his games he is a very good player, and i especially like his win against chigorin when he was operating the mephisto! |
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Nov-02-06
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| xenophon: I have a copy of his openning manual from 1904,the opennings are a litle stale but the adverts for frock coats impressive |
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| Jun-21-07 |
| mrstilney: This is fantastic, i'm related to him through my maternal grandmother. I knew he was a chess player but had no idea just how good or well-known he was! |
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Sep-02-07
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| Karpova: More on Gunsberg:
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
(Chess Notes 5136 and 5137) |
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Nov-02-07
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| Phony Benoni: Possibly Gunsber's best game: J Mason vs Gunsberg, 1889 |
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Nov-16-07
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| Karpova: Reminiscence of Problemist S G Luckcock:
<“I was playing with several others against Mr Blackburne in simultaneous chess one evening. We had our score sheets by our side, when a gentleman tapped me on the shoulder saying he would like a word. He asked me if I was S.G. Luckcock, the problemist. I said that no-one had called me that until now but that I had published a few. He said, ‘I am glad to know you for I am the Chess Editor you submit them to’, and it was I. Gunsberg speaking. He introduced me to his son Alfred, a lad about my own age, who afterwards married my eldest sister: through this connection I met Mason, Dr Lasker, Lee, Marshall, Pillsbury, Teichmann and many others famous in those days and at the Divan Café played singly against Gunsberg and Marshall, losing both my games, of course, but this gave me a great enthusiasm for the game and, as I got to play better, I lost my power to compose problems.”’>
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Apr-19-08
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| Knight13: A great player definitely NOT appreciated by today's chess players. This guy's not that much worse than giants like Chigorin and he even sniped out Blackburne, yet Blackburne remains more famous. |
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May-16-08
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| Knight13: Chessmetrics Player Profile: Isidor Gunsberg
Born: 1854-Nov
Died: 1930-May
Best World Rank: #1 (on the February 1889 rating list) Highest Rating: 2744 on the July 1889 rating list, #2 in world, age 34y8m Best Individual Performance: 2784 in Blackburne-Gunsberg II (Bradford), 1887, scoring 8/13 (62%) vs 2744-rated opposition |
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| Aug-22-08 |
| whiteshark: Quote of the Day
" Carl Schlechter also showed us the generous side of his nature by declining to compete for any of the brilliancy prizes, for which he undoubtedly would have had the best chance. <I have won enough>, he said. <Let others get something too.> " -- Gunsberg |
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| Aug-22-08 |
| whiteshark: <vonKrolock < - A little curiosity: Gunsberg composed himself some Chess Problems or Studies?! - Currently I cannot find any example...>> Here you are:
<The Westminster Papers, 1876>
click for larger viewWhite to move mates in three
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. <The Westminster Papers, 1877>
click for larger viewWhite to move mates in three
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. For solutions: http://www.bstephen.me.uk/cgi-bin/m... A very fine database, neatly arranged, easy to handle! |
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| Aug-28-08 |
| GrahamClayton: Gunsberg is the only world championship challenger who has not yet been the subject of a games collection. |
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| Sep-02-08 |
| GrahamClayton: Source: CN 2082 Edward Winter, "Kings, Commoners and Knaves", Russell Enterprises, 1999 |
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| Sep-07-08 |
| GrahamClayton: In 1915 Gunsberg successfully sued the "Evening News" newspaper in the High Court, which accused Gunsberg of "making blunders", after 15 of the 104 problems that were printed in Gunsberg's column in the "Daily Telegraph" were found to be unsound. Source: David Hooper and Kenneth Whyld, "Oxford Companion to Chess", 2nd edition, OUP, 1992 |
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