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| Jan-07-12 | | Legend: Happy Birthday, Paul Keres! |
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Jan-07-12
 | | twinlark: He left us far too soon, aged 59. RIP Paul Keres, you and your games will be long remembered. |
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| Jan-07-12 | | SimonWebbsTiger: It's easy to suggest 5 books to improving players:
<the Art of the Middlegame> co-authored with Kotov <the Early Games of, the Middle Years of, The Later years of Paul Keres> the three volume collection of games annotated by Keres <Practical Chess Endings> - an extremely good primer by Keres on endgame theory which will serve as a stepping stone to Mueller and/or Dvoretsky's endgame books. The great Paul was a pretty decent author too. |
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| Jan-07-12 | | King Death: Happy Birthday and R.I.P. to one of the all time great ones as a player and a man. You never won the title, but you were a winner all the way as a sportsman and a gentleman. |
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Jan-07-12
 | | Penguincw: < Keres was the player who have defeated the largest number of world champions, 9 : ... > Amazing. And he was never World Champ himself!
R.I.P. Paul Keres |
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| Jan-07-12 | | drnooo: He Euwe, Spassky, to some extent Capa, and not many others put a light on the best qualities of chess players and world champs...even though Keres never got that suspicious and lugubrious title. So what.
As for the rest, hard to call any of them gentlemen.
Someone here who knows the extant ones ought to do a long blog on Nice Guys.
Thogh I am absolutely certain none of them will come close to Keres.
He was in, with the exception of Euwe, in a class by himself. |
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| Jan-07-12 | | Korifej: Paul Keres left us far too soon,at age 59.But his legacy,his books and his immortal games will live forever.About his human qualities should not waste words.R.I.P |
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| Jan-07-12 | | Dionysius1: In his biog here on cg.com, what the heck does this mean "For their performances usually deployed, he is known as Paul, the Second and The Uncrowned King". It reads like a late night expression of personal adoration for PK, though I can't make out what "performances usually deployed" might mean. Shouldn't the write ups be a bit more objective - perhaps following the guidance from the wikipedia rules or similar? |
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| Jan-07-12 | | HeMateMe: It's a reference to Paul Morphy, isn't it? Keres is "Paul II, the uncrowned king". The first Paul, Morphy, wore the crown. "...for their performances usualley deployed..."? Maybe this bio was written by an Estonian, english not being his native language. Something got lost in the translation. |
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| Feb-03-12 | | joodik: Those who doubt in Keres should educate themselves.
Keres played and won Capablanca, Euwe, Najdorf, Alekhine, Fischer, Tal.
Many of them he won multiple times. He won many of them while he was only like 22 years old.
The list of legends he played and won is already impressive. This is a type of portfolio that puts most of chess world champions in shame. |
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| Feb-03-12 | | AlphaMale: Good point, Steinitz never beat any of Capablanca, Euwe, Najdorf, Alekhine, Fischer, Tal. |
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| Feb-04-12 | | joodik: I think that Keres had more talent than many modern and post-ww2 World Champions.
Do you really write spam on Chess pages? |
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Feb-09-12
| | Penguincw: Keres is the greatest player to have never won a world championship. According to his record, he won more games than drew and loss combined! |
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Feb-09-12
 | | aliejin: "Paul Keres left us far too soon,at age 59.But his legacy,his books and his immortal games will live forever.About his human qualities should not waste words.R.I.P" Talking about keres...perfect words |
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Feb-13-12
 | | brankat: <Steinitz never beat any of Capablanca, Euwe, Najdorf, Alekhine, Fischer, Tal.> They were not available. But Steinitz did beat everyone else during his era. Except P.Morphy who decided to retire from chess at an early age. |
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| Feb-13-12 | | M.D. Wilson: <Penguincw: Keres is the greatest player to have never won a world championship. According to his record, he won more games than drew and loss combined!> Korchnoi got closer to the Title, as did Bronstein. How is Keres better? |
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| Feb-13-12 | | joodik: "Greatest chess player who never won world title" almost sounds like a small insult, so we don't need to title Bronstein, Korchnoi or Keres with such a title.
As I said Keres has already proved himself: winning Euwe, Capablanca, Alekhine, Botvinnik, Najdorf, Tal, Fischer.
70% winning percentage is a kind of statistic that defines a master, considering that Keres was pressured to lose some games, it speaks of great talent.
Remember that during ww2 Keres had more things to worry about than his winning percentage. |
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Feb-13-12
| | brankat: <..considering that Keres was pressured to lose some games..> This has never been proven, therefore strictly a speculation. <..during ww2 Keres had more things to worry about than his winning percentage.> He was not the only one. |
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| Feb-13-12 | | ewan14: Nonsense - there would be indirect pressure at least He was arrested by the KGB when the Soviet Union re - invaded Estonia He was lucky to survive |
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| Feb-13-12 | | joodik: I think there were more than speculations.
<..He was not the only one..> Now you are wrong, you and I, and today's chess players never lived during ww2. Now... name me one Yugoslavian player who has higher winning percentage and has played stronger opponents than Keres!? |
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Feb-13-12
| | brankat: <ewan14>
<..there would be indirect pressure at least> In other words You are assuming/guessing. Otherwise the word <nonsense> would have been followed by factual information. When the Red Army entered Estonia some 10-15% of the population were arrested. It was not much different in other lands. Many hundreds of thousands, if not millions were lucky to survive. |
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Feb-13-12
| | brankat: <joodik> <I think there were more than speculations.> OK then, so that's what You think? I'd still like to see some Evidence. <Now you are wrong, you and I, and today's chess players never lived during ww2.> It is true that we were not around then. But, what am I wrong about? Are You saying that Paul Keres was the only one who had other things to worry about, and not about chess? That others worried primarily about chess? As for Yugoslav players, I didn't say a word about them. |
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| Feb-13-12 | | joodik: I really have to dig in files to find that answer for you and I don't have the time for that. He finished AVRO as first, he had 70% of winning percentage when playing all time strongest chess players.
He is a chess classic, similarly to art classics, you can't argue about classics. What are we arguing about? |
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Feb-14-12
| | Penguincw: < M.D. Wilson: <Penguincw: Keres is the greatest player to have never won a world championship. According to his record, he won more games than drew and loss combined!> Korchnoi got closer to the Title, as did Bronstein. How is Keres better? > Paul Keres still had chances for a championship in 1948. Bronstein and Korchnoi probably was leading at some point. Anyways, neither Korchnoi or Bronstein have more wins than draws and losses combined. We all have our own opinions. :) |
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