Somebody made a comment that this explains why he supports Bobby Fischer, but making some kind of joke about it.

I'm afraid that it explains a lot, and I have been thinking about it earlier when I heard about Spassky's sentiments. Bobby Fischer is a victim of anti-Semitism and a very tragic case. Even though, I, especially as a Jew, am disgusted of his anti-Semitism and also by his anti-Americanism, I supported his coming to Iceland and hopefully one day he will discover that we aren't that bad as he thinks.

Here in France they have given the freedom to Maurice Papon, a war-criminal from WW II, because of misplaced humanitarian reasons. He was, after the war, in the French government, police chief in Paris nine years and they all knew his background as responsible for the death of around 2.000 Jews.

So, I can't see why we shouldn't grant Bobby Fischer the same mercy.

Unfortunately, there are more of us who start to hate their Jewish origin because of the terribly growing anti-Semitism. I have been living in France six years now and it is awfully exhausting to face this every single day.

We are such a small people, around 14 million, but the world seem to be shaking for what power they give us. We are all getting sick of it, and as I mentioned in some cases it turns out in Jewish selfhatred. The same tragedy as we can find among African people because of this poison of racism.

<WMD: German politics must be the dullest in the world. Every time an interesting party emerges, they try and ban it.>

obvious trap? interesting answer!

i just quoted you and asked you a question. since german politicians do not try to ban parties every day this was the logical conclusion.

<acirce> You should have written it in your first posting that you found it on Internet. I am serious about this as so much is written about Talmud and Shulchan Aruch.

Especially Talmud is demonized and who bothers to control the facts, when it takes seven years of studying one folio per day with a very good knowledge of Hebrew and Aramaic.

I am not very keen on neither Hebrew and Aramaic, but I study every day with people who have this knowledge.

I cannot speak for Joseph Caro's gigantic work regarding, if there are any specific anti-Gentile phrases written in Shulchan Aruch. I will inquire and come back.

These books are written by human beings and as in all religious books from the three monotheistic religions there are marginally things written that may be regarded as anti-Gentile today. But, don't forget that bouth works are written after severe attempts to erase the Jewish people.

Anti-Semitism is as old as the Jewish people. We were liberated out of Egypt more than 3.500 years ago and it was hatred toward the growing Hebrew slaves that lead to this liberation that we will celebrate as usual every year in ten days. Pesach is our holiday of freedom and the first strongly accentuated focusing on human rights and freedom of speech ever written down in the history of mankind. We teach our youngest children to ask questions, and where is it possible ?

Only in an open society !

Last but not least, we are taught in Judaism to respect all human beings as equal. It is written in our prayers ! And we love differencies !
We have never tried to convert anybody to become a Jew !

Christianity and Islam (but to much less extent) have commit one massacre after the other after our refusal to leave Judaism.

I get so furious that we always are put in this corner of defending ourselves. In all countries, where we are living we contribute to the best of the country.

20.000 Jews died in the German army during WW I for Germany, and afterwards came the real disaster caused by the monstruous Nazism, who wanted our total extermination. Hitler had an enormous international support and this is the reason for why it became possible. My country of birth Sweden were asking the German authorities to put a *J* in the passport so the Swedish authorities could stop the Jewish refugees from Germany. During the 1960ies already was a law taken that war criminals living in Sweden couldn't be brought into justice. This resulted in that many war criminals from Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania (to some extent) who had escaped to Sweden could walk safely on the street. Inspite of all this I love the Swedish people and Sweden itself because there are so many good things to tell.

When it comes to us Jews, to few reflect about the positive things that we have brought to the humanity without interest for ourselves.

This is long, I know, but for me this is a question of my mental health in this world full of hatred.

I am familiar that there are people who, on a scholarly basis, have books from antiquity of all kinds of things for that faith. Obviously that is their culture and heritage.

Here are two very good links ;

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...

http://www.torah.org/advanced/shulc...

Thank you for your open critics about what happened in Sweden before and during WW II.

But there were courageous people like Rauol Wallenberg, Valdemar Langlet, Torgny Segerstedt ....,

and many of the greatest writers like Selma Lagerlöv, Pär Lagerquist, who openly wrote against the Nazism during the 30ies.

G-D is supposed to be for everybody and it is not written in Hebrew anything of making massacres.

You have to study the text carefully, before you write this, and please, don't use the Old Testament.

Use the Hebrew Bible our Tanach.
You can look at Google for explanations.

Here is a sample:
" I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee." Exodus, 23:27

I have more, just ask!

<<arielbekarov> I can only say : Here we go again !> So? Most of what you wrote has also been said before. <acrice> could also have answered "Here we go again" to your WW2 reference.

<Use the Hebrew Bible our Tanach.> From Wikipedia: "The Protestant Old Testament consists of the same books as the Tanakh, but the order and numbering of the books are different."

"God" is usually an invention by humans to control or to justify evil to other humans.

There are of course a lot of nice religious people, and I have no way the impression that you are an evil person, Ariel, I just disagree with you.

Wonderful is not the word I'd use to describe someone who spends their time dissecting a religious book they don't believe in.

"Why would a man whose shirt says 'Genius at Work' spend all of his time watching a children's cartoon show?"