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| Jan-12-10 | | MaxxLange: parisattack: I listed the Spassky books in English here... a few pages back and on my forum> thanks - good info |
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| Jan-12-10 | | parisattack: Spassky books in English and trans-language:
Spassky's 100 Games - Cafferty
Spassky's Best Games - Soltis
51 Games of Boris Spassky - Soltis
Spassky's Road to the Summit - Cozens
Spassky Master of the Initiative -Raetsky/Chetverik
Grand Strategy - 60 Games of Spassky - Reek
Boris Spassky World's Greatest Chess Player - Schroeder Spassky 300 Wins - Chess Stars
Spassky 400 Games - Chess Stars
Spassky - Weltgeschichte des Schachs #27
In his prime (probably 1965-1969) Spassky could be considered on of the Power Players, along the lines of Pillsbury, Geller, Stein, Topalov... Schroeder and Raetsky/Chetverik my personal favorites. Can anyone add to the list - English language or trans-language such as the Welt and Chess Stars? |
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| Jan-12-10 | | Petrosianic: <My point is simply that the ratings system backs up what I recall people thinking at the time, which was not that Fischer, Petrosian, Larsen and Spassky were a group ahead of the rest.> All right, well you may be right. I'm not sure how Americans viewed Korchnoi in the 60's. Probably the first thing that came to mind then was Fischer's accusations against him. <Botvinnik, for instance, thought that at one stage Geller was the strongest player in the world.> He might be right. Geller is vastly underrappreciated today. But if he was ever the best, it was unlikely to be in the late 60's/early 70's, as he was born in 1925. <Others wondered how Spassky lost to Petrosian, when he'd bested people like Keres and Korchnoi,> I think a lot of people wondered that. But Keres did pretty well too. He took Spassky to the final game of their match, at age 49. Spassky took Geller to the cleaners in both their matches, though. <You are probably right that Larsen and Taimanov's pleas of low blood pressure helped start the idea that losing to Fischer was a psychological crusher.> Yeah, remember that those matches were the first chess events that many reporters ever covered. Things that were not all that unusual to the seasoned might have seemed unusual to somebody new to it. |
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Jan-13-10
 | | gezafan: I think Spassky suffered from "Worldchampionitis." The symptoms are a lessening of interest in chess after reaching the summit. After you reach the top there's only one way you can go. Other sufferers include Morphy, Capablanca and Fischer. |
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Jan-13-10
 | | TheAlchemist: <No one who played Fischer in the previous cycle ever was a threat again. It is hard to say who suffered worse-Taimanov, Larsen, Petrosian or Spassky.> Well, the one who ended up suffering the most after 1972 is Fischer himself. He didn't even play anymore. |
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| Jan-13-10 | | Petrosianic: Well, Taimanov was never a threat again, so the claim is one quarter correct. |
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| Jan-13-10 | | Petrosianic: <Other sufferers include Morphy, Capablanca and Fischer.> Heck, sufferers include pretty much every world champion except Karpov and Kasparov. |
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Jan-13-10
 | | keypusher: <Petrosianic: Well, Taimanov was never a threat again, so the claim is one quarter correct.> Yeah, but he was never a threat before, either. :-) |
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| Jan-13-10 | | Petrosianic: Shh! We're not supposed to notice that. |
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| Jan-13-10 | | TheFocus: <Petrosianic>< "Spassky's 100 Best Games" was pretty good, but I haven't seen a copy in years.> www.abebooks.com has several copies for under $10.00. |
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| Jan-29-10 | | Billy Vaughan: Spassky's the guest of honor at Gibtelcom.
Is he the guest of honor <everywhere>? He spectates like every tournament. |
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| Jan-30-10 | | Karnatakiaditya: Happy Birthday Sir! One of the most humble World Champions and a very nice human being! |
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| Jan-30-10 | | wordfunph: happy birthday Boris Spassky! |
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| Jan-30-10 | | drnooo: At some point someone a lot smarter than I should go over the very top 60s players and either shrink the ratings back to around Spasskys or raise his and probably 10 other of the top players then to the current inflation and do it in ELO. Spassky is clearly not 100 points below Krammnik Carlsen Anand, etc |
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| Jan-30-10 | | drnooo: The unhappiest period of my life was when I was world champion.... Boris Spassky |
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| Jan-30-10 | | talisman: Happy Birthday Boris. The "most admired" chess champion. |
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| Jan-30-10 | | drnooo: Not to quibble too much with one of the posts here, since he is largely correct about lessening of interest after reaching the top (for some) but that was not the case with Morphy. He for a few years was more than willing to play anyone. Staunton to the point. What got Morphy was that nobody would take his being a lawyer seriously in the south(also this was right after the war between the states, he tried to hang his shingle in New York even, but there too his renown had followed him and the horrible sobriquet of chess player,"hes a great chess player" was a terrible din in his ears for years. After that it was not even a neutral feeling: he loathed the game. Had he been able to live in both worlds easily there seems to reason to believe he would have not been comfortable with the title. Bobby Jones in golf always insisted on retaining his amateur status, continued as a lawyer, retired at the top, is still considered by some as the best player that ever lived.
By all accounts Fisher tried to play Karpov under the table in several attempts. He hardly ran from him, though some say he did, since by those accounts it was he not Karpov than went on insisting to demands that cound not me met. Karpov wanted the match and in a way they came close with these strange meetings in Japan. So who knows. |
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| Jan-30-10 | | talisman: <drnooo> enjoyed your post. you know something i've always wondered about, being from Baton Rouge, is how much Morphy Not fighting in the Civil War affected how others treated him?
sidenote: my great great grandfather's rocking chair i have. cold harbor...2 time POW. |
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| Jan-30-10 | | karnak64: Happy birthday, champ! |
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Jan-30-10
 | | HeMateMe: From Wiki:
"Unfortunately, Morphy's embryonic law career was disrupted in 1861 by the outbreak of< the American Civil War>. Opposed to secession, Morphy did not serve in the Confederate Army. During the war he lived partly in New Orleans and partly abroad, spending time in Paris and Havana, Cuba. Possibly because of his antiwar stance, Morphy was unable to successfully build a law practice even after the war ended. His attempts to open a law office failed; when he had visitors, they invariably wanted to talk about chess, not their legal affairs. Financially secure thanks to his family fortune, Morphy essentially spent the rest of his life in idleness. Asked by admirers to return to chess competition, he refused. The Morphy mansion, sold by the family in 1891, is today the site of <Brennan's, a famous New Orleans restaurant.>" the article mentions that the Morphy's were wealthy, doesn't mention whether or not they were slave owners. One might reason that a wealty family in New Orleans were large land owners, but they may have been successful in another area, like law, insurance, or retail business. Doesn't say if his whole family was anti slavery, anti secession. Even if they were, New Orleans is/was a sort of cosmopolitan city, not like rural Georgia or Virginia. The residents of New Orleans may not have felt any particular kinship with people in St. Petersberg or Richmond. I get the vibe that not being pro secessionist isn't the reason that Morphy had no law career. Even people like lawyers and accountants have to 'sell' their services, have a certain personality, to draw in customers, along with being competent. Paul Morphy may not have had this ingredient in his makeup. |
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| Jan-30-10 | | miguelito: felicidadaes campeon , la vida te dio la tristeza de haber perdido a tus padres en la guerra cuando eras pequeño y dios te compenso con un talento inigualable y una personalidad honesta y caballerosa . |
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| Jan-30-10 | | muwatalli: happy birthday spassky. may you see many more and enjoy them all. |
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| Jan-30-10 | | WhiteRook48: after fischer became champion, spassky was like heavily underrated all the time |
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| Jan-30-10 | | Fanques Fair: Great Spassky ! One of the most agressive (in chess) world chess champions of all times, at the same time a sensible man. |
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| Jan-31-10 | | KingG: 3 hours of Spassky commentary here : http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.c.... I love his expression 'chookie' for 'check'. |
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