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Aug-17-12
 | | HeMateMe: Right, but Tal was a pretty young man when his book came out, he would still be an active player and perhaps wanted to avoid some nasty over the board vibes. Also, the Soviet system was still in place, and he was part of the Latvian satallite, with something to lose if the authorities decided to sit on him, as they did to Korchnoi. Also, I don't think Tal has been linked to as many interesting moments as has Spassky. You have the two matches with Fischer, a candidates match with Karpov, Spassky leaving Russia to live in France (before communism was taken down in the USSR). With those things in mind, Spassky has a rich amount of experiences to expound on, and surely he can provide insights that aren't going to be pleasant to some people. I would just hate to see him gloss over everything. |
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| Aug-18-12 | | Karpova: Boris Spassky: <I do not really know to this day. After my stroke, I was put into a Paris clinic, where I was treated appallingly. I do not want to accuse anyone specifically, but someone thought it would be interesting not to treat my physical problems, but instead to stuff me full of tranquillisers. When finally I was tranferred home, I found the phone was cut off, and there was no Internet access. I was isolated. I begged to be sent to Moscow, but nobody would listen. To this day, I do not know who all this was done for.> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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| Aug-18-12 | | Jack Bauer: Guess what? I saved Boris ... within 24 hours. |
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| Aug-18-12 | | ex0duz: Incredible.. so he basically disowned his wife and France just like that? Is he going to continue in Fischers/his footsteps and start another international incident? Gotta love these old guys. Hope you get well soon in Russia. |
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Aug-18-12
 | | harrylime: ^^
Spassky is Russian.
Oh and 'these old guys' are chess legends for a reason. EVERYONE gets old. |
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| Aug-18-12 | | Everyone: was young once. Everyone but you. |
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Aug-18-12
| | harrylime: <Petrosianic: Fischer actually comes off a little worse, only breaking even with a Korchnoi who was lower ranked and rated than the Korchnoi of the mid 70's. > I don't believe Korchnoi was a stronger player in the 70's. I do believe the chess scene became weaker, with many great players disappearing and not being replaced. As for Fischer's record against Korchnoi, well <Eggman> has answered this above.. I mean. Petrosian easily snuffed Korchnoi out in the 1971 candidates match, suffocating him in a sea of draws. The same Petrosian who Fischer brushed aside so easily. What would Fischer have done to Korchnoi one may ask? |
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Aug-18-12
 | | alexmagnus: One may ask but one cannot answer - we all know chess results are not transitive, not even close. |
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| Aug-18-12 | | ex0duz: Sorry if it came across the wrong way. When i say 'old guys', i have nothing but utmost respect when i say that. I also happen to agree with Fischers politics concerning the US, and i think Spassky is one of the 'nicest' chess players, personality wise. And yeah, i know Spassky is Russian and has dual citizenship. I'm just shocked at the sudden-ness of all this. He was held hostage by his wife for 2 years under house arrest and some plot to KILL him by IV'ing him with tranquilizers and not treating him for his tumor? I mean, what the @#$%?(why can't i use the abbreviated term chessgames?)? I thought he was settled down, had a loving wife and living it up in some French Villa or something.. heh You can't make this @#$% up.. what do you guys all think about this? |
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| Aug-18-12 | | ewan14: In Kasparov's O.M.G.P. Boris says that at a tournament in the early 1950 s
the Soviet players were trailing a non
Soviet player ( possibly Szasbo but NOT
Fischer or Larsen )
when the telegram came from Moscow instructing the Soviets to start drawing amongst themselves |
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Aug-18-12
| | harrylime: ^^^
1962 candidate tourney lol lol |
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Aug-18-12
| | harrylime: <ex0duz >
I thought he was settled and living the 'good life' in gay Paris ect... lol I thought Boris was sensible and cool in 'life' .. I agree. This sounds like one of Bobby's crazy tales from the 80's ! lol Is all this true? |
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Aug-18-12
| | harrylime: Boris's bio on here is even worse than Fischer's in this place ! lol |
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| Aug-18-12 | | waustad: Wild stuff here:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... |
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Aug-18-12
 | | paulalbert: To say the least, the Spassky situation alleged in the interview seems bizarre. Without commentary from any other parties, it's hard to judge or assess. |
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Aug-18-12
| | HeMateMe: <paulalbert:> Agreed, most certainly. Spassky is an older man now, and coming off of a serious illness. His comments may not be those of a rational man. A medical response from the hospital he was at would be most helpful. Spassky is what you might call a "high profile customer". I would be surprised if the French clinic was guilty of gross negligence/imcompetence. |
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| Aug-19-12 | | csmath: I plead on Karpov to keep sanity and good behaviour so that we have at least one ex-world champion dying from old age without going bonkers. |
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| Aug-19-12 | | Naniwazu: Perhaps the stroke messed with his mind somehow? |
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Aug-19-12
| | alexmagnus: Thing is, he (or his mind) could have made some of the things interview up, but hardly all. I mean, things like cutting connection to the outside world are something you just cannot make up, no matter how crazy you are. I wonder if this story will have a continuation. |
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| Aug-19-12 | | Naniwazu: <twinlark: That's just plain insulting.> I'm just speculating..not stating it as a fact. It wasn't meant to be offensive in any way. As far as I'm concerned the story borders on the incredible. Perhaps I'm wrong..we won't know until the facts are in. Don't get me wrong as a human being and chess player I greatly admire Spassky. |
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| Aug-19-12 | | twinlark: <Naniwazu>
I tried to delete my comment before anyone read it. You're quite right. |
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Aug-19-12
 | | OhioChessFan: He's lost it. |
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| Aug-19-12 | | diceman: <Petrosianic: Fischer actually comes off a little worse, only breaking even with a Korchnoi who was lower ranked and rated than the Korchnoi of the mid 70's. > I don’t think Fischer “the kid” relates to Fischer in the 70’s.
(just look at his “never beaten Spassky“)
Also in the 1978 Baguio City World Championship match,
Karpov was tied with “Korch” going into the last game.
(5 wins each)
Allegedly, he was supposed to have demolished Fischer
in 1974, but the geezer “Korch” kept him at bay with
4 more years of experience. |
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Aug-19-12
 | | Eggman: <<Allegedly, he was supposed to have demolished Fischer in 1974 <sic>, but the geezer “Korch” kept him at bay with 4 more years of experience.>> A few points here:
1. I for one have never heard anyone suggest that Karpov would have "demolished" Fischer. It seems to me that those who pick Karpov always admit that it would have been a tough go. 2. Korchnoi was not a "geezer" in 1978, not even figuratively. Most agree he was at his best, and his rating, 2nd in the world and well ahead of whoever was ranked 3rd, attests to this. 3. Chess is not the 100 meter sprint, where if A can beat B and B can beat C, then A can surely beat C. Chess is more like rock, paper, scissors. Just because Karpov had such difficulty with Korchnoi doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have beaten Fischer. Ali was given fits by Joe Frazier and Ken Norton, who in turn were just decimated by George Foreman, yet Ali triumped over Foreman just the same. In chess as in boxing, styles make fights. Fischer's style was surely very different than Korchnoi's. That said I'd still have to pick Fischer in 1975. But sadly we'll never know. |
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| Aug-19-12 | | RookFile: I have never seen a record of any grandmaster, anywhere in the world, who thought in 1975 that Karpov would be favored over Fischer. |
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