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Vladimir Kramnik
Kramnik 
Photograph copyright © 2007 Milan Kovacs (www.milankovacs.com)  

Number of games in database: 3,249
Years covered: 1984 to 2024
Highest rating achieved in database: 2817
Overall record: +549 -171 =959 (61.3%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 1570 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 English (154) 
    A15 A14 A17 A13 A16
 Sicilian (147) 
    B90 B33 B30 B92 B52
 Queen's Pawn Game (109) 
    D02 A46 E10 D05 D00
 King's Indian (106) 
    E97 E92 E94 E91 E81
 Reti System (101) 
    A04 A06 A05
 Slav (99) 
    D17 D15 D11 D18 D12
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (270) 
    B33 B30 B31 B62 B65
 Ruy Lopez (182) 
    C67 C65 C84 C78 C95
 Queen's Gambit Declined (123) 
    D37 D35 D38 D39 D31
 Semi-Slav (110) 
    D45 D43 D47 D44 D48
 Petrov (102) 
    C42 C43
 Nimzo Indian (81) 
    E32 E21 E34 E54 E46
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kramnik vs Leko, 2004 1-0
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Gelfand vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 1-0
   Ivanchuk vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2000 1-0
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004 0-1
   Kramnik vs Anand, 2001 1-0
   Topalov vs Kramnik, 1995 0-1
   Kramnik vs Morozevich, 2007 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (1999)
   Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000)
   Kramnik - Leko Classical World Championship Match (2004)
   Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006)
   World Championship Tournament (2007)
   Anand - Kramnik World Championship Match (2008)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   New York PCA/Intel-GP (1994)
   Belgrade Investbank (1995)
   Hoogovens Group A (1998)
   Amber Blindfold (2003)
   Dortmund Sparkassen (2004)
   16th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2007)
   Dortmund Open-A (1992)
   World Cup (2013)
   Qatar Masters (2014)
   Tata Steel Masters (2018)
   Sao Paulo Latin American Cup Open (1991)
   Legends of Chess (2020)
   World Youth U26 Team Championship (1991)
   Biel Interzonal (1993)
   Manila Olympiad (1992)

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   Match Kramnik! by amadeus
   Vladi Others by fredthebear
   My Life and Games (Kramnik/Damsky) by Qindarka
   Kramnik on a King Hunt & vs the World Champions by visayanbraindoctor
   0ZeR0's Favorite Games Volume 75 by 0ZeR0
   Vladimir, the Conqueror by Gottschalk
   Vladimir Kramnik's Best Games by KingG

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   Svidler vs Kramnik (Sep-26-23) 1-0, rapid

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VLADIMIR KRAMNIK
(born Jun-25-1975, 49 years old) Russia
PRONUNCIATION:
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Former World Champion - and former top ranked player in the world - Vladimir Borisovich Kramnik was born in Tuapse, on the shores of the Black Sea, on June 25, 1975. As a child, Vladimir Kramnik studied in the chess school established by Mikhail Botvinnik. In 2000, he won the Classical World Championship from Garry Kasparov, then won the unified title when he defeated Veselin Topalov in 2006 to become the 14th undisputed World Champion. Kramnik relinquished the title in 2007 to his successor, the 15th undisputed (and now former) World Champion, Viswanathan Anand.

Championships

<Age> In 1991, Kramnik won the World Under 18 Championship in Guarapuava, Brazil.

<National> Kramnik finished equal first in the 1990 RSFSR (Russian) Championship in Kuibyshev, Russia, but placed second on tiebreak, behind Andrei Kharlov. He came third ex aequo in the Russian Championship Superfinal (2013) after a last round battle with Ian Nepomniachtchi for a share of first and the possibility of the title for the first time. However, he lost the game and scored 5.5/9.

<World> Kramnik's early attempts at storming the citadel of the World Championship met with mixed results. In 1994, he lost a Candidates quarter finals match for the PCA championship to Gata Kamsky by 1½-4½, and a few months later he lost a Candidates semi-finals match for the FIDE championship to Boris Gelfand by 3½-4½. In 1998, Kramnik was defeated by Alexey Shirov by 3½-5½ in the Candidates match held in Cazorla to determine the right to play Garry Kasparov for the Classical World Chess Championship. In 1999, Kramnik lost in the quarterfinals of the FIDE knockout championship in Las Vegas to Michael Adams by 2-4, including the 4 game rapid play-off.

Although Shirov had defeated Kramnik for the right to challenge Kasparov, suitable sponsorship was not found for a Kasparov-Shirov match, and it never took place. In 2000, however, sponsorship became available for a Kasparov-Kramnik match instead. This meant that Kramnik was the first player since 1935 - when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger - to play a world championship match without qualifying. Kramnik reached the pinnacle by defeating long-time champion Kasparov in the Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000) in London by the score of 8½ to 6½ (+2 =13 -0) without losing a game, becoming the next Classical World Champion in the line that started from Wilhelm Steinitz. It was the first time since the Lasker - Capablanca World Championship Match (1921) that the defending champion had lost a match without winning a game and it was also the first time Kasparov had lost a World Championship match. Kasparov said of Kramnik that: <"He is the hardest player to beat in the world.">

In 2004, Kramnik successfully defended his title as Classical World Chess Champion against challenger Peter Leko at Brissago, Switzerland, by drawing the Kramnik - Leko Classical World Championship Match (2004) in the last game. Lékó was leading the 14-game match until the final game, which Kramnik won, thus forcing a 7 - 7 draw and ensuring that Kramnik remained world champion. Because of the drawn result, the prize fund of 1 million Swiss francs was split between the two players.

Kramnik refused to participate at the FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005), but indicated his willingness to play a match against the winner to unify the world championship. His next title defence in 2006, therefore, was a reunification match with the new FIDE world title holder from the 2005 tournament, Veselin Topalov. The $1 million Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006) was played in Elista, Kalmykia from September 21 to October 13 and after controversially forfeiting the fifth game, Kramnik won the rapid game playoff by 2½ -1½ after the classical games were tied 6-6, thereby becoming the first undisputed unified World Chess Champion since the 1993 split. In the following year, Kramnik lost the unified world title when he finished second to Viswanathan Anand at the Mexico City World Championship Tournament (2007). In October 2008, Kramnik exercised his entitlement to a rematch as a challenger to World Champion Anand in Bonn, Germany, but lost the Anand - Kramnik World Championship Match (2008) match by 4½ to 6½ (+1 =7 -3).

Kramnik's tournament performances in 2009 (see below) raised his rating (average of July 2009 and January 2010 ratings) sufficiently to qualify him for the World Championship Candidates (2011). In the first round he beat Teimour Radjabov by the narrowest of margins*: after tieing the classical games 2-2 (+0 =4 -0), and the rapid games 2-2 (+0 =4 -0), he won the blitz playoff by 2.5-1.5 (+2 =1 -1) to move to the semi final match against Alexander Grischuk, which he lost 1.5-0.5 (=1 -1) in the blitz tiebreaker after he drew the classical games 2-2 (+0 -0 =4) and the rapid games 2-2 (+0 -0 =4), thereby eliminating him from the contest. Participating in the World Championship Candidates (2013) on the basis of his rating, Kramnik came =1st with Magnus Carlsen on 8.5/13 after both lost their last round games. As the first tiebreaker (individual score against the other player in the tournament) left them level, the second tiebreaker (greater number of wins in the tournament) relegated Kramnik to second place due to scoring four wins to Carlsen's five.

Kramnik was seeded directly into the World Championship Candidates (2014), as he met the pre-condition that he participate in the World Cup (2013). During the Cup, he defeated Zambian IM Gillan Bwalya in the first round, compatriot GM Mikhail Kobalia in the second round, Ukrainian GM Alexander Areshchenko in the third round, veteran Ukrainian GM and twice former Candidate Vasyl Ivanchuk in the Round of 16 (round four), his third Ukrainian opponent in the shape of GM Anton Korobov in the quarter final (round five), one of the wildcards of the event, French GM Maxime Vachier-Lagrave match in the semi final (round 6) before defeating compatriot GM Dmitry Andreikin in the final by 2.5-1.5 (+1 =3). His win also guaranteed qualification in the World Cup 2015, although he would qualify by rating alone. At the Candidates in March 2014, he placed 3rd with 7/14 behind Anand and Karjakin.

He qualified by rating to play in the World Cup (2015) where he met and defeated Peruvian Deysi Estela Cori Tello and Cuban GM Lazaro Bruzon Batista in the first two rounds to advance to the third round where he lost to Dmitry Andreikin in the first set of rapid game tiebreakers, thereby bowing out of the event.

Tournaments

Kramnik won Chalkidiki 1992 with 7.5/11, and in 1993, he played in Linares, finishing fifth and defeating the then world number three, Vasyl Ivanchuk. Following some solid results in the interim which resulted in him winning the 1994 PCA Intel Grand Prix, major tournament triumphs were soon to follow, such as Dortmund 1995, Horgen 1995, Belgrade 1995, =1st in Dos Hermanas in 1996 and 1997, =1st in Tilburg 1997 (8/11). Dortmund became a favourite stop, as Kramnik has gone on to win nine more times in 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, Dortmund Sparkassen (2006), Dortmund Sparkassen (2007), Dortmund Sparkassen (2009) and Dortmund Sparkassen (2011), as either equal or clear first; in the 2011 edition of the event he won by 1.5 points despite losing in the last round. In 2000, Kramnik won his first Linares tournament, completing his set of victories in all three of chess' "triple crown" events: Corus, Linares, and Dortmund. Kramnik later captured additional Linares victories in Linares (2003) (shared) and Linares (2004) (outright). He won the Tal Memorial (2007) with 6.5/9, 1.5 ahead of Shirov. Kramnik had exceptionally good results in 2009, winning once again in Dortmund and then winning the Category 21 (average ELO = 2763) Tal Memorial (2009) in Moscow with 6/9 and a TPR of 2883. At the time, the average ELO rating of the field made it the strongest tournament in history. He also participated in the London Chess Classic (2009) in December, finishing second to Magnus Carlsen. These magnificent results qualified him for the 2011 Candidates on the basis of his boosted ratings. Kramnik began 2010 at Corus Group A (2010) in the Netherlands, during which he defeated new world number-one Carlsen with the Black pieces in their head-to-head encounter, ending Carlsen's 36-match unbeaten streak. A late loss to Anand knocked him out of first place, and Kramnik finished with 8/13, tying for second place with Shirov behind Carlsen's 8½ points. He came 2nd in the preliminary Shanghai Masters (2010) to qualify for the Grand Slam Chess Final (2010) against Carlsen and Anand, who had pre-qualified. He then won at Bilbao with +2 -0 =4 over world champion Anand, then-world number one Magnus Carlsen, and Shirov. The 2009 Tal Memorial and the Grand Slam Final at Bilbao were the most powerful tournaments (in ratings terms) ever staged. In late 2011, he easily won the 15th Unive (Crown Group) (2011) with 4.5/6 and a TPR of 2903 and finished the year with outright first at the London Chess Classic (2011) with +4 -0 =4 and a TPR of 2934, recovering ground lost following a mediocre performance in the Tal Memorial (2011) where he failed to win a game. In June 2012, he placed =4th at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012), with 4.5/9 and in July 2012, =3rd (4th on tiebreak) at the category 19 Dortmund Sparkassen (2012) tournament. Kramnik finished 2012 with a surge, placing 2nd at the London Chess Classic (2012) behind Magnus Carlsen, scoring 6/8 (16 points in the 3-1-0 scoring system used in the event) and a TPR of 2937 to Carlsen's 2994.

His final training preparation for the Candidates tournament in March at the category 21 Zurich Chess Challenge (2013), was less than completely successful in terms of results (2.5/6), drawing five and losing one to Anand, although it seemed to contribute to his game fitness at the Candidates as he placed second by the narrowest of margins, scoring equal to Carlsen who won the event and the right to challenge Anand for the World Championship. He placed =4th with 4.5/9, a point behind the winner, in a low scoring Alekhine Memorial (2013) and then had one of his worse ever results at the Tal Memorial (2013), coming last with 3/9 (+0 -3 =6). However, he returned to form in the Dortmund Sparkassen (2013), placing outright second behind Adams, scoring 6.5/9, jointly dominating the category 19 field to the extent that no other player scored better than 50%. In November 2014, Kramnik competed at the category 20 Petrosian Memorial (2014), and was outright second behind Alexander Grischuk with 4.5/7, signalling a mild return to form after a slump that saw him exit the world's top 10 for the first time since he entered the top 10 in January 1993. There followed 2nd at the powerful Qatar Masters (2014), with 7/9, and =1st at the London Chess Classic (2014).

2015 saw Kramnik starting his competitive year by placing outright 3rd behind the winner Anand and runner-up Hikaru Nakamura, ahead of Sergey Karjakin, Levon Aronian and Fabiano Caruana respectively, in the standard section of the RR category 22 Zurich Chess Challenge (2015). He won the final section of the Zurich event, namely the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2015), but the added points were insufficient to give him the overall lead and he finished with 3rd prize behind Nakamura and Anand respectively. A relatively poor performance at the Gashimov Memorial (2015) where he scored only 4/9 was followed by a solid performance at the Russian Premier League 2015 (see below) and a below average 3.5/7 for fourth place at the annual Dortmund Sparkassen (2015). He saw out the year with equal third, scoring 6.5/9 at the powerful Qatar Masters (2015), half a point behind the joint leaders Magnus Carlsen and the rising Chinese star Yangyi Yu. Kramnik started 2016 with equal third on 5/9 at the Norway Chess (2016) behind Carlsen and Aronian respectively after also coming third in the preliminary Norway Chess (Blitz) (2016) used to determine the draw. Several months later in July he placed =2nd (with 4/7) behind Vachier-Lagrave at Dortmund Sparkassen (2016). Kramnik's year in standard time chess finished with a reasonably efficacious equal third at the London Chess Classic (2016), a point behind the winner Wesley So.

In April 2017, Kramnik was second on tiebreak ahead of co-runners up Wesley So and Veselin Topalov at the category 21 Gashimov Memorial (2017), scoring 5/9, half a point behind the winner Shakhriyar Mamedyarov. Two months later he again placed equal second, this time at the category 22 Norway Chess (2017), scoring 5/9 alongside Hikaru Nakamura, a point behind the winner Levon Aronian.

Team Events

<Olympiads> Kramnik has won three team and and individual gold medals at the Olympiads as well as two team silvers. He played in the gold medal winning Russian teams in the Manila 1992, Moscow 1994 and Yerevan 1996 Olympiads, his first gold medal being awarded to him as an untitled 16 year old in 1992 when he scored eight wins, one draw, and no losses to record a remarkable TPR of 2958. In 1994, he came fifth on the second board with 8/11 and a 2727 TPR. In 1996, he scored a relatively meagre 4.5/9 on the second board. He did not participate in any more Olympiads until Turin Olympiad (2006) in Turin, when he again won a gold medal with overall best performance on the top board with 6.5/9 (2847 TPR). In the Dresden Olympiad (2008) in Dresden, he scored 5/9 on top board and a 2735 TPR. Kramnik played board one for the silver medal winning Russian team in the Khanty-Mansiysk Olympiad (2010) in Khanty-Mansiysk, coming fifth with a scored of 5.5/9, winning 2 and drawing 7 with a TPR of 2794. At the Istanbul Olympiad (2012) held in Istanbul, he again played top board scoring 5/9 and coming 7th on that board, leading his team to another silver medal. At the Tromso Olympiad (2014), he again played board 1 for Russia. He played board two for Russia in the Baku Olympiad (2016), scoring individual gold for his board, and team bronze with his countrymen.

<National Team Events> In 1991, 2490-rated FM Kramnik represented Russia on board 2 at the World U26 Championship played at Maringá; with a perfect score of 6/6 he helped Russia to win gold, and won individual gold for his performance. He played in the European Team Championships on one occasion, in 1992, when the then FM was rated 2590. Again representing Russia, this time on board 3, he helped his team to win gold with a 6/7 effort, and won individual gold for board 3 as well as a gold medal for the best rating performance at the event, that being a 2863 performance, ahead of Kasparov's 2809 performance that won rating silver. That same year (1992), he also played on the USSR team against the Rest of the World. He played for Russia twice in the World Team Championship, in 1993 and 2013. On the first occasion, he lead his country to a bronze medal, and on the second occasion - at the World Team Championship (2013) - to a gold medal.

<European Club Cup> Kramnik participated in the European Club Cup between 1995 and 1999 inclusive, in 2005 and again in 2015 and 2016. He started off playing board one with SV Empor Berlin in 1992 and 1993, moved on to Sberbank-Tatarstan Kazan in 1994 where he helped the club to bronze, then played board one with the powerful Agrouniverzal Zemun team in 1998 and 1999, winning team silver in 1999. Since then, he played for NAO Paris in 2005, winning team bronze and for the Siberia Novosibirsk team in the European Club Cup (2015) and European Club Cup (2016) winning team gold in 2015 as well as an individual gold for board 1.

At the Russian Team Championship (2015), Kramnik played board 1 for Siberia Novosibirsk, winning gold for that board; his effort also helped his team to win gold. He repeated his individual effort in the Russian Team Championship (2016), this time helping his team to a bronze medal in the double round robin 5-team contest.

Matches

In 2004, he won a simul against the German National Team 2½:1½.

In October 2002, Kramnik played an eight game match against Deep Fritz (Computer) in the Brains in Bahrain (2002) match, drawing 4-4 after leading 3-1. In 2006 the German organization Universal Event Promotion (UEP) staged a return match of six games between Kramnik and Deep Fritz in Bonn, which Kramnik lost, +0 -2 =4.

In April 2012, Kramnik and Levon Aronian played, as part of their preparation for the 2012 Candidates Tournament, a six-game training match in Zurich. The Kramnik - Aronian (2012) match was drawn 3-3 (+1 -1 =4). From late November to early December 2016, he played a rapid and blitz match against Yifan Hou at the Kings Tournament in Romania, winning both by significant margins, the rapid by 4.5-0.5 and the latter by 6/9 (+5 -3 =2).

Rapids

Kramnik has been an excellent and consistent performer at rapid and blindfold play. He won or shared the overall lead at Amber in 1996 (outright overall 1st), 1998 (=1st with Shirov with 15/22), 1999 Monaco (14½/22), 2001 (=1st with Topalov with 15/22), 2004 (=1st with Morozevich with 14.5/22), and 2007 (outright overall first with 15½/22). He also won the 2001 rapid play match against Lékó by 7-5, drew the 2001 rapid play Botvinnik Memorial match with Kasparov 3:3 and the 2001 rapid play match against Anand 5:5, lost the 2002 Match Advanced Chess Kramnik vs. Anand (Leon) 3½:2½, was runner up to Anand in the Cap D'Agde FRA (2003), won the 2009 Zurich Champions Rapid (2009) with 5/7 and shared 1st in the 2010 President's Cup in Baku with 5/7. In tandem with the London Classic 2014, Kramnik came =1st in the blitz event and =3rd in the rapid play open.

Kramnik came in equal 5th with 10/15 in the World Rapid Championship (2015), 1.5 points behind the winner Carlsen, and half a point behind the joint runners up Nepomniachtchi, Radjabov and Leinier Dominguez Perez. He followed up the next day with equal second alongside Vachier-Lagrave scoring 15/21, half a point behind the outright winner Alexander Grischuk at the World Blitz Championship (2015).

Ratings

Kramnik entered the top 100 in January 1992 and has remained there since that time. He rose rapidly in the rankings such that a year later in January 1993, he entered the top 10 where he has been ensconced since, apart from a few months in 2014. Yet during that time he made it to world #1 in only two rating periods.

In January 1996, Kramnik became the world top rated player. Although he had the same FIDE rating as Kasparov (2775), He became number one by having played more games during the rating period in question. He became the youngest ever to reach world number-one, breaking Kasparov's record; this record would stand for 14 years until being broken by Magnus Carlsen in January 2010.

Ironically, during his reign as world champion, Kramnik never regained the world number-one ranking, doing so only in January 2008 after he had lost the title to Viswanathan Anand. As in 1996, Kramnik had the same FIDE rating as Anand (2799) but became number-one due to more games played within the rating period. Kramnik's 12 years between world-number one rankings is the longest since the inception of the FIDE ranking system in 1971.

In July 1993 soon after his 18th birthday, he crossed 2700 for the first time and has remained in the 2700+ rating ever since. In April 2001, he became the second of only eight chess players to have reached a rating of 2800 (the first being Kasparov, followed by Anand, Topalov, Carlsen, Aronian, Caruana and Grischuk). Kramnik's highest standard rating to date is 2811 achieved in May 2013 when he was ranked #3 in the world.

Other

In 1995, Kramnik served as a second for Kasparov during the latter's successful defence of his Classical World Chess Championship against Anand, and in an ironic counter point in 2010 he served as a second for Anand during the World Champion's successful defence against Topalov.

Kramnik has a form of arthritis called ankylosing spondylitis. In January 2006, Kramnik announced that he would miss the Corus Group A (2006) to seek treatment for this condition. He returned from treatment in June 2006, playing in the 37th Chess Olympiad, winning gold by top scoring on the top board. Kramnik's performance in winning the Classical World Championship in 2000 won him the Chess Oscar for 2000, while his 2006 victory in the reunification match earned him the Chess Oscar for 2006.

On 30 December 2006 he married French journalist Marie-Laure Germon and they have a daughter, Daria, who was born 28 December 2008, and a son, Vadim, born 28 January 2013.

Sources and references Website: http://www.kramnik.com/; Biography: http://www.kramnik.com/eng/biograph...; Extended and candid interview with Kramnik by Vladislav Tkachiev in August 2011: http://whychess.org/node/1605; Live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; * http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...; Wikipedia article: Kramnik

Last updated: 2023-11-23 11:45:25

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Kramnik vs Serdyukov 1-0311984BelorechenskB78 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack, 10.castle long
2. A Oganyan vs Kramnik 0-1311984BelorechenskB89 Sicilian
3. Remezov vs Kramnik  0-1521985KrasnodarB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
4. Kramnik vs Zhukov 1-0381986BelorechenskB43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3
5. Zaitsev vs Kramnik 0-1491986Team TournamentB83 Sicilian
6. Kramnik vs Otsarev 1-0181987Baku TrainingB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
7. Shilov vs Kramnik 0-1371987USSR Boys' ChampionshipB33 Sicilian
8. Kramnik vs A Chjumachenko 1-0321987GelendzhikB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
9. Kramnik vs Mayorov 1-0341987GelendzhikC12 French, McCutcheon
10. I Odesskij vs Kramnik 0-1251987URS-chT U14A52 Budapest Gambit
11. Yakubovsky vs Kramnik  0-1511987URS-chT U14B23 Sicilian, Closed
12. Yakovich vs Kramnik 1-0421988URSB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
13. Kramnik vs Danislian ½-½601988URS-chT U18B15 Caro-Kann
14. M Golubev vs Kramnik 0-1381988URS-chT U18B33 Sicilian
15. Kramnik vs Yakovich ½-½141989Chigorin Memorial-BB33 Sicilian
16. Kramnik vs R Shcherbakov ½-½351989Chigorin Memorial-BB58 Sicilian
17. A V Filipenko vs Kramnik 0-1401989Chigorin Memorial-BB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
18. Kramnik vs A Panchenko ½-½601989Chigorin Memorial-BB58 Sicilian
19. Khenkin vs Kramnik ½-½171989Chigorin Memorial-BD39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
20. J Ivanov vs Kramnik ½-½121989Chigorin Memorial-BA85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3
21. Kramnik vs B Podlesnik 1-0371989Chigorin Memorial-BB33 Sicilian
22. M Sorokin vs Kramnik ½-½521989Chigorin Memorial-BA81 Dutch
23. G Kallai vs Kramnik ½-½221989Chigorin Memorial-BA81 Dutch
24. Kramnik vs G Tunik 0-1381989Chigorin Memorial-BB46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
25. Kramnik vs A Grosar ½-½471989Chigorin Memorial-BB58 Sicilian
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Dec-29-11  shach matov: <I'm sure I will return to it again the next time it pops up, or the next time after that, or the next time after that>

OK, so when it's convenient for your argument, you will simply ignore the issue? This is in fact central to my argument about his mental state during the match - if you can't consider every point I made, then there's nothing left to argue about.

Dec-29-11  acirce: <<There had been for a while. Kasparov did say he was troubled by it. One year before the match, that is. In 2000 he stopped being troubled by it> Please show me where he said that, do you have a quote?>

Here is one example that specifies it a bit. It's from May 2000, after he had just won Sarajevo with a +6 score (Game Collection: Sarajevo 2000):

<I have to admit that I had a very difficult time with my first family. I was trying desperately to bring my daughter to Russia, but unfortunately my ex-wife is resisting in court. You can imagine what that does to you. It was against our agreement, which stipulated that as from age six my daughter could travel with me. My ex-wife blocked her from going anywhere outside America. That's very expensive and extremely frustrating. September, October, November [1999] I was mentally ruined by this event. So I was not surprised that I played Wijk aan Zee [2000] in a different shape. Yury (Dokhoian, his second for many years - DJtG) was the first to notice. After my round 2 game with Piket he said, Garry, this is not how it used to be. I managed to survive Wijk aan Zee, even played a great game with Polgar, but every game already contained some kind of blunder. And then it was Linares. And I am very happy that you wrote this article, because you were the only one who realized that Linares was one of the greatest efforts in my entire chess career. I nearly collapsed when I played my final game with Piket (in the final of the KasparovChess inaugural Grand Prix before Linares - DJtG). There were all kinds of problems with the participation of Deep Junior and everyone was accusing me. We had internal fights. I was considering not playing Deep Junior. I didn't know what to do if Deep Junior beat Adams. This put a lot of pressure on me and then I lost this final match against Piket. I could not imagine how I could play Linares. I was only fighting for survival. Yet, in bad form I made plus two.

I was in much better shape here. I had four rest days, because we arrived early. We had some walks and started working. In a good atmosphere. I played in a town which is probably my home-town. People wanted me to win. I am one of them. As long as the generation that remembers the war is alive I will be one of them. I was here in 1994 and everyone still remembers that. I feel strongly about them, they feel strongly about me. So, when I play here I know I have to win. I no longer have Baku as my home-town, so I consider Sarajevo as some sort of replacement.>

From an interview with Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam reprinted in "The Day Kasparov Quit".

It seems to me that after suffering through a crisis, he started to feel better around May and return to his "real" form when things around him started to feel right. Now, it's not out of the question that he was again deeply troubled from family issues during the match, but he denied it completely himself, so you can't simply assume it just because it suits you.

Dec-29-11  acirce: <OK, so when it's convenient for your argument, you will simply ignore the issue?>

No, I'm just saying the wheel is already invented.

Dec-29-11  AlphaMale: Was it ever invented in sub-Saharan Africa?
Dec-29-11  shach matov: Seriously <acirce> instead of supporting your assertion, your quote instead made me realize how bad his mental state really was during that period.

But I am still trying to figure out in your quote where he say that he was in a good form/ mental state during the match.

Dec-29-11  acirce: <your quote instead made me realize how bad his mental state really was during that period.>

What period? September 1999 to, say, April 2000? Sure. He was "mentally ruined" by those family issues you mention in September-November 1999. He says it helps to explain why he played relatively badly in Wijk Aan Zee in January, even though presumably he was out of the worst crisis. Regarding Linares, he mentions other things. Then in May, he's in great shape again. The match is in October. You claim that he was deeply troubled by family issues <at that time>, but you have no evidence.

I haven't claimed that Kasparov was in a good mental state during the match, but that was since things went wrong for him from the beginning on the chessboard. Kramnik's great play and preparation frustrated him mentally and exhausted him physically since he had to work so hard during the match. That's the most obvious explanation, given that he said he was in amazing form right before it and dismissed any suggestions that he was troubled by personal problems.

Dec-29-11  shach matov: <Then in May, he's in great shape again.>

He never said he was in a great shape. He simply said that it was his <best effort> which can easily be interpreted as being able to psychologically force himself to play his best even when he was still very troubled mentally. Indeed, the context of the quotes is exactly that: he was on the verge of a mental breakdown but was still able to compete well.

An individual may be able to control his emotions temporarily but it doesn't mean that all is well. What evidence is there that he was any better mentally after May, or for that matter, during May? Sometimes an individual of this caliber is able to fight things that trouble him mentally and play great chess, but it doesn't mean that he is not troubled.

Lets remember though that GK's opinions were never my evidence. I strictly focused on numbers, results and highest performances to show clearly that his prime period was (by far) 85-93. What he felt or thought about his form during one or another period is irrelevant: numbers speak much louder than opinions.

Interestingly nobody was able to refute the numbers I provided, but instead they concentrate on opinions. Example: I showed that GK had the record four of his highest tournament performance during the years 85-93, and only one during the latter period (lets say 93-2001). Nobody even bother to consider these and instead they said something like: "Well Kasparov himself said that he was in a great from in 99". And that's supposed to disprove my argument? Silliness, at best.

Dec-29-11  acirce: One more thing before I (try to) go to sleep. It's not an either/or issue. Of course personal problems of any kind and degree can weigh on your mind and distress you. But the unsubstantiated claim here is that Kasparov was so deeply disturbed by these family issues that he couldn't play at anything near his highest level in October 2000.

The thing is, it's Kasparov we are talking about. Everywhere he went, in everything he did there was controversy and conflict. He was involved in politics long before his retirement. He was involved in business. There was of course the whole struggle with FIDE. GMA, PCA, WCC. The Shirov fiasco. The Deep Blue/IBM fiasco. Enemies were made, hostilities were launched, accusations, counter-accusations... and so on and so on. His whole career was like that. We don't really have to assume that he was completely destroyed by some things that were disturbing him for a while in late 1999 and early 2000.

Dec-29-11  frogbert: acirce, just for the sake of the argument, if we assume there were a couple external factors that might have troubled kasparov during the 2000 match, what difference would it supposedly make?

the result in <any> game, tournament or match is caused by a complex set of factors, hundreds of variables of various kinds with potential of having some impact, and regardless the result is what it is, afterwards.

unlike what kasparov suggests, the record between kramnik and kasparov is completely equal over 30-ish games before/after the 2000 match (a totally insignificant +4 -3 for kasparov with lots of draws). obviously kramnik had more than a 45% chance of winning going into the match, no matter if kasparov were in perfect shape, based on their head-to-head results.

overall i think kasparov still was a better player than kramnik after the 2000 match, but that doesn't imply that it was any kind of anomaly or inexplicable upset that he lost to kramnik; unlike what match purists are touting, matches are probably one of the poorer ways of deciding who of two players is "the best one", given our knowledge of the non-transitivity of strength relationships in chess.

here's the clue: <kramnik didn't need to be as good as kasparov overall> in order to have good chances of beating him in a match - he just needed to be about as good as him, in a duel - head to head. (there doesn't exist any empirical evidence that establishes if either was significantly better than the other head to head - and neither do we miss it.) if kasparov and topalov fans would've realized as much, they wouldn't have needed to be as surprised to see their man lose to kramnik in 2000 and 2006.

regarding return-matches (in general): as long as the two players are reasonably balanced to begin with, for two matches played in a reasonably short time-span, the most natural result will be that the players win one match each. given the huge advantage of being the defending champ even without any "rematch clause", the inclusion of rematches is utterly counterintuitive - unless the explicit purpose is to make sure that the wc title changes hands as seldom as possible. with the state of modern chess, rematch clauses would be exclusively <negative> for the chess world. botvinnik's rematches were a bad idea even back then - today (as well as in 2000) it's utterly meaningless and serves no purpose whatsoever.

i think maybe the most important reason for kasparov's loss in 2000 was his ego and pride - that he "had to" refute the berlin and kept banging his head into the wall instead of switching to 1. d4. for this there is no excuse - it was a strategical mistake, the kind of mistakes that makes you lose matches. and the only one to blame for kasparov is himself.

kramnik had decent chances going into the match. he won the preparation battle (partly because kasparov let him, by insisting on 1. e4). kasparov lost the psychological and theoretical battle and also the match.

sure, it wouldn't have been strange if kasparov would've won a hypothetical rematch (not because he was better than kramnik head-to-head, but because they were equal) - and thank heavens that we got rid of those silly rematch clauses before the 2000 match.

the tougher task remains: establishing the inadequacy of matches if the purpose is to establish who the <overall best player> is. do we still need the world championship title in chess?

Dec-29-11  shach matov: <We don't really have to assume that he was completely destroyed by some things that were disturbing him for a while in late 1999 and early 2000.>

We have to remember that this <something> was much more serious than fights with FIDE or anything else - that time it was family issues related to his children which is not comparable with FIDE nonsense.

One thing that has to be also considered is that the preparation for the match was exactly during the time of all the family troubles he was experiencing, ergo it's reasonable to assume that his uncharacteristically bad (relative to all other matches he plaid) preparation for the match was the result of the inability to focus on preparation properly. In this sense the match was decided by preparation in addition to the bad mental form manifested by the inflexibility to change one's opening play. It's one thing to be prepared worse than your opponent, but another when you're so uncharacteristically inflexible as not to be able to control yourself enough to switch to another opening for someone with such famous opening knowledge and understanding.

Dec-29-11  polarmis: <schach matov>, did you really use the phrase "uncharacteristically inflexible" about Kasparov? :)
Dec-29-11  shach matov: There may be some (some may say a lot of) inflexibility as regards to the personality, but my meaning was strictly regarding chess, particularly opening play during a match. In prior matches (as far as I remember) he was never so inflexible as to not be able to switch from one opening to another one if the practical consideration demanded it. In this sense it seems <uncharacteristically inflexible> is applicable regarding the 2000 match, and I think it was the manifestation of the aforementioned psychological troubles unrelated to chess.
Dec-29-11  polarmis: I don't see anything surprising at all, to be honest. He'd clearly focussed his preparation on 1.e4 and it's not so easy to switch during a match (it's not a matter of knowing other openings, but of having prepared World Championship match level ideas in them). When he did he wasn't particularly successful, except perhaps in one game. Plus although of course the match is remembered for the Berlin Kasparov lost it because Kramnik beat him with the white pieces. In the Berlin he always had a risk-free advantage and would have realised that objectively it should be possible to win. That's not the worst thing in the world (just ask Kramnik about the Meran - I assume he should have been committed to a mental asylum for repeating that, given your reasoning?), and quite a temptation.
Dec-29-11  shach matov: There are many other continuations to 1.e4, he didn't have to willingly enter the Berlin. He had amazing results with the Scotch during his career... anything would have been better than the Berlin.

And you can't simply disregard GK's white games: at the topest level white wins usually decide the match. The bad preparation simply gave the opponent four white games free of charge, so to speak. This decided the match.

Dec-30-11  frogbert: <When he did he wasn't particularly successful, except perhaps in one game.>

my impression is that the two 1. c4 games (game 5 and 7) mostly served as "pause games" while the team worked on cracking the berlin, at the time possibly thinking that it couldn't be so hard to find good winning chances for white there.

game 5 looked half-way as some kind of attempt, while game 7 was for all practical purposes a rest day. but when kasparov returned to 1. e4 and the berlin again was on the board in game 9, kramnik cleverly chose to deviate on move 9 (h6 instead of Bd7 as in the first two games, 1 and 3) - and whatever kasparov and his team were hoping for, it didn't materialize; it even was kramnik who played the first novelty also in game 9, like in game 5.

and then kramnik won with white again, in game 10 ...

Dec-30-11  JoergWalter: <shach matov> the Berlin surprised Kasparov. How to surprise the best prepared player in the world? Well, be better prepared. The only thing I was wondering about was that Kasparov would not raise his usual claims: there was a traitor/spy among his seconds or there was an attempt to corrupt Asmaiparashivili. Corrupt Asmaiparshivili? That guy was born that way and a perfect match to Kasparov.
Dec-30-11  drik: <shach matov: You're being hypocritical once again: why are you counting the two games when you yourself say GK was in terrible form? GK leads Kramnik by +4-3 in their tournament score (which I consider irrelevant anyway).>

No - your lifetime score is your lifetime score. You have to include the good times & the bad. I note with amusement that you find players results against each other, irrelevant for predicting match results ... & prefer only to consider games against random selections of opponents. How completely Kasparov destroys Shirov is irrelevant to how he fares against Kramnik.

<First, I don't accept your idea of believing some opinions (which are convenient for your argument)and not others - it's pure hypocrisy.>

What you believe & what is reasonable; appear to two different things. Kasparov knows HIMSELF better than anybody - even YOU. So when he comments on the date of his prime (1999) I will believe him - unless you can pinpoint a reason for him to lie or deceive himself on this issue.

YOU are the one being hypocritical - you believe Kasparov on his madness when it helps your argument. But you disbelieve your own hero, when it makes your argument difficult! Personally I think he deserve fans who show more respect!

I am consistent because believe both his statements - but a players form is his own problem. Did Tal not have a disaster against Botvinnik in the return match? But despite all his health problems, I never heard him attempt to minimise the Patriarch's performance.

Remember Kasparov against Deep Blue? Did he not go mad there also? Resigning a game where even I (@Elo~2000) could see a possible perpetual. And what was the fingerslip all about? Perhaps when put under extreme pressure by an entity with remorseless accuracy, the self-belief wilts?

Dec-30-11  JoergWalter: <drik> good keypoints.
Dec-30-11  drik: <shach matov:>

<polarmis: <schach matov>, I posted this before but as you ignored it here it is again. http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail... <I never said my loss to Kramnik was an accident, and won’t. If you look at our results before and after the match it looks that way, but he won fair and square. He was better prepared and he did something good for chess. He moved the game forward; he had some great ideas that enriched our understanding of chess.>>

<acirce: Kasparov has said that he was in amazing form going into the match. There is simply no basis for the opposite claim. He looked bad in some games during the match, obviously, but it had to do more with Kramnik's excellent play and preparation than with anything else.>

<Mr. Bojangles: <Kramnik matched Kasparov over his whole career, and his long unbeaten run before the match meant it was no enormous surprise that Kasparov didn't win a game> Quod Erat Demonstrandum.>

<JoergWalter: Guys, whatever you say with the best reasons in the world, it is <Shach matov> who will be the jury. Even Kasparov may be of a different opinion,>

...isn't it remarkable how many people disagree with you? Not least Kasparov!

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  FSR: <drik: ... I note with amusement that you find players results against each other, irrelevant for predicting match results ... & prefer only to consider games against random selections of opponents. How completely Kasparov destroys Shirov is irrelevant to how he fares against Kramnik.>

Your argument with schach matov parallels one that I had in 2000 with the webmaster of Kasparov's website at the time, kasparovchess.com. Before the match he wrote that Kasparov was a huge favorite because his Elo rating was so much higher than Kramnik's. Relying solely on the two players' ratings, he calculated that Kramnik had only a very small chance (5% or some such) of getting a plus score against a player rated so much higher. Even at the halfway point (after six games), when Kasparov had lost a game and drawn the other five, he continued to claim that Kasparov was a huge favorite to win the match.

I pointed out that Kasparov had obtained his rating advantage <not> by beating Kramnik, but by being more successful than Kramnik at beating <other> players. As I recall, going into the match, the two Ks had something like 12 draws in their last 12 games, and Kramnik had won the game that preceded that. They had a lifetime even score prior to the match. They had even played a blitz match, and drawn <that> 12-12. I told this fellow (I don't recall his name) that in light of their prior history <against each other> - most recently at this point 17 draws, 2 Kramnik wins, and no Kasparov wins - Kasparov was very unlikely to win the match. The best he could plausibly hope for was that he could manage to win a game himself, draw the rest, and thereby retain his title with a drawn match. But if he lost another game, it would be all over. The webmaster allowed that I had a point. In fact, Kramnik <did> win a second game, and it was indeed all over after that.

Dec-30-11  drik: <acirce: Here is one example ... From an interview with Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam reprinted in "The Day Kasparov Quit".>

Interesting quote ... & one that firmly puts the ball back in Schach's court - as regards providing a solid counter quote. Will he notice the ball as it goes flying past him?

Dec-30-11  Mr. Bojangles: Good arguments drik

Am afraid your efforts would be wasted though as u r preaching to a deluded retard..

Dec-30-11  Mr. Bojangles: I remember Kasparov being asked in the mid-90s that if he were to lose his title who would he lose to.

Guess who he named?

Let's just say history proved him right.

Dec-30-11  drik: <FSR: Your argument with schach matov parallels one that I had in 2000 with the webmaster of Kasparov's website>

Glad that we are in agreement. Chess is not checkers, where most often there is only a single correct path with steep precipices either side. Chess has complex local maxima & minima, with many possibly optimal paths - so it can support many different styles of play.

As I've mentioned before, Kasparov is devastating against tactical counter-attackers like Shirov & Anand ... but much less effective against defensive strategists like Karpov & Kramnik. All 4 opponents had similar ratings but his results are spectacularly different against the two contrasting styles.

As for your argument ... it is a shame you did offer a bet. I had an argument with a patronizing mathematician who made a trivial calculation using the Elo formula & offered me odds of 10-1. Whilst taking £50 off him, I gave him a photocopied chapter from Martin Gardner, titled 'Nontransitive Paradoxes'. He became slightly less patronising.

Dec-30-11  drik: <JoergWalter, Mr. Bojangles> Thanks
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