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Hikaru Nakamura
Nakamura 
 

Number of games in database: 4,760
Years covered: 1995 to 2025
Last FIDE rating: 2807 (2738 rapid, 2838 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2816
Overall record: +1153 -452 =736 (65.0%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 2419 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (371) 
    B23 B90 B30 B50 B51
 Reti System (241) 
    A04 A06 A05
 Ruy Lopez (187) 
    C65 C67 C77 C78 C84
 Queen's Pawn Game (134) 
    A45 D00 D02 E10 D05
 Queen's Gambit Declined (129) 
    D37 D31 D38 D30 D35
 Nimzo-Larsen Attack (89) 
    A01
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (302) 
    B90 B30 B92 B22 B80
 Ruy Lopez (287) 
    C67 C65 C70 C72 C78
 Queen's Gambit Declined (170) 
    D37 D31 D39 D30 D06
 Queen's Pawn Game (169) 
    D02 A40 A45 A46 A41
 Giuoco Piano (148) 
    C53 C50 C54
 King's Indian (142) 
    E97 E92 E63 E94 E90
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Krasenkow vs Nakamura, 2007 0-1
   Gelfand vs Nakamura, 2010 0-1
   Rybka vs Nakamura, 2008 0-1
   So vs Nakamura, 2015 0-1
   G Sagalchik vs Nakamura, 2003 0-1
   Crafty vs Nakamura, 2007 0-1
   Nakamura vs Karjakin, 2004 1-0
   A Beliavsky vs Nakamura, 2009 0-1
   Nakamura vs Kramnik, 2012 1-0
   Nakamura vs J W Loyte, 2001 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Trophee CCAS (2008)
   Corsica Masters (2007)
   Magnus Carlsen Invitational (2020)
   Meltwater Tour Final (2021)
   Bullet Chess Championship (2023)
   Ordix Open (2009)
   Chess.com Speed Chess Championship 2017/18 (2017)
   Tata Steel India (2022)
   Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals (2020)
   New In Chess Classic (2021)
   chess.com Speed Chess (2020)
   Chess.com SpeedChess Finals (2024)
   Champions Showdown (2019)
   Pro Chess League (2018)
   PRO League Group Stage (2019)

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   book: Fighting Chess with Hikaru Nakamura by Baby Hawk
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   Notable Nakamura Games by iron maiden
   2020 The Corona Beer & Black Bears Matter Mo Ode by fredthebear
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   Nakamura vs B Darr (Sep-06-25) 1-0
   Nakamura vs D Zagar (Sep-06-25) 1-0

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HIKARU NAKAMURA
(born Dec-09-1987, 37 years old) Japan (federation/nationality United States of America)

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IM (2001); GM (2003). Hikaru Nakamura won the US Championship in 2004, 2009, 2012, 2015 and 2019. He was the world's second-ranked player as of October 2015. In July 2023, he married WGM Atousa Pourkashiyan.

Prodigy

Christopher Hikaru Nakamura was born December 9, 1987 in Hirakata in Osaka, Japan, to a Japanese father and an American mother. He is the younger brother of Asuka Nakamura. When he was two years old, he and his mother and brother moved to the United States. He started playing chess when he was seven, coached by his stepfather, Sunil Weeramantry. He was the youngest player in US history to defeat an International Master (Jay Bonin) in a USCF-rated game (10 years, 0 months), to become a National Master (USCF) (10 years, 79 days), to defeat a Grandmaster (Arthur Bisguier) in a USCF-rated game (10 years, 117 days), and to become an IM (13 years, 2 months), although most of these records have subsequently been surpassed. In 2003 he became the USA's youngest-ever grandmaster (15 years, 2 months and 19 days), a record later broken by Fabiano Caruana and Ray Robson.

Championships

<Youth> In 2001 he won the World U14 championship.

<National> When he won the Chessmaster US Championship 2005 (2004) (on tiebreak from Alexander Stripunsky), he was the youngest player to win the US championship since Robert James Fischer. He also won the US Championship (2009) outright by half a point ahead of the joint runners-up Robert Hess and Alexander Onischuk, and the United States Championship (2012) outright by a full point ahead of the winner of the 2010 and 2011 events, Gata Kamsky. He won the national title for a fourth time when he took out the US Championship (2015) with 8/11, half a point ahead of the outright runner up Ray Robson.

<World championship cycle> Seeded number 87 and aged 16, Nakamura reached the final 16 in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004), defeating 46th seed Sergey Volkov, 19th seeded Aleksej Aleksandrov, and 51st seed Alexander Lastin in the preliminary rounds before bowing out to number 3 seed and finalist Michael Adams in the round of 16. He qualified to play in the World Cup (2013) through his rating, and defeated Peruvian WGM Deysi Estela Cori Tello in the first round, Azeri GM Eltaj Safarli in the second round and Indian GM Baskaran Adhiban in the third round, but was eliminated in the Round of 16 (fourth round) by Ukrainian GM Anton Korobov. He qualified by rating to participate in the World Cup (2015), and is doing so although he has already qualified for the Candidates Tournament of 2016 via the Grand Prix series of 2014-15. He defeated Richmond Phiri, Sam Shankland in the first two rounds, as well as Ian Nepomniachtchi in a third round thriller that Nakamura won in the deciding Armageddon blitz tiebreaker game after the three previous sets of rapid and blitz tiebreakers had been drawn. In the Round of 16 (the fourth round) he won against Michael Adams by 1.5-0.5 but lost to Pavel Eljanov in the quarter final, bowing out of the event.

<Grand Prix Series 2012-2013> He started the Grand Prix series with last at the FIDE Grand Prix London (2012). After bouncing back into contention with outright second in the FIDE Grand Prix Zug (2013), a poor showing at the FIDE Grand Prix Thessaloniki (2013) eliminated him from contention for the top 2 spots that would have qualified him for the 2014 Candidates Tournament. (1) He did however place 3rd behind Fabiano Caruana and Boris Gelfand in the FIDE Grand Prix Paris (2013) to accumulate 300 GP points and place 6th in the 2012-13 Grand Prix series. Subsequently, his only chance to play in the 2014 Candidates Tournament was to be nominated as the Organizer's wild card once the venue was settled, however this did not eventuate.

<Grand Prix Series 2014-2015> Nakamura competed in the first leg of the series at the FIDE Grand Prix Baku (2014), where he scored 6/11 to place 3rd-7th, half a point behind the joint leaders Caruana and Gelfand. He therefore kicked off with a GP tally of 82 points, representing the even distribution of points applicable to each place from 3rd to 7th. In the second leg of the series, namely the FIDE Grand Prix Tashkent (2014), he placed =2nd and stood in 2nd place overall, excellently situated to take advantage of the opportunity to qualify for the Candidates tournament in 2016. He took full advantage of this in FIDE Grand Prix Khanty-Mansiysk (2015), when he came =1st to qualify for the Candidates Tournament of 2016.

Standard tournaments

In 2005, he won the 7th Foxwoods Open (2005).

In 2007, he won both the National Open (2007) that was held in Las Vegas and the Casino de Barcelona (2007).

The following year, he beat Xiangzhi Bu in the play-off to win the Gibraltar Masters (2008) Masters Open with 8.0/10.

Nakamura tied for first with Evgeny Najer at the 37th World Open (2009) after taking two last-day byes, each worth half a point and won the Donostia Chess Festival (2009) in tiebreak over Ruslan Ponomariov.

In 2010, he came =4th at Corus Group A (2010), and was equal top scorer in the victorious Rising Stars team in the Rising Stars - Experience (2010) tournament. He scored 5/9 (+1 -0 =8) at the Tal Memorial (2010), placing =4th, and finished the year with =4th place in the London Chess Classic (2010).

Nakamura began 2011 by taking clear first place at the A-Group of the prestigious category 20 Tata Steel Group A (2011) (formerly Corus) with a 9/13 score (+6 -1 =6) and a 2880 performance rating, ahead of a powerful field including the world's top four players: World Champion Viswanathan Anand, Magnus Carlsen, Levon Aronian and former World Champion Vladimir Kramnik. In June 2011, Nakamura placed =3rd in the Bazna King's Tournament (2011), in July he scored 4.5/10 at Dortmund Sparkassen (2011), in August he came =1st in the 2011 US Open Championship with 7.5/9 and in October he came =3rd in the Grand Slam Chess Final (2011) with 5/10. The following month, he suffered a lapse in form at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2011), scoring 3/9 and coming last but recovered to finish 2011 with second place behind Kramnik at the category 20 London Chess Classic (2011), scoring +4 -1 =3 (TPR of 2887).

He started 2012 by coming =2nd (4th on count back) at the Reggio Emilia (2011), half a point behind Anish Giri, and then came =5th at Tata Steel Group A (2012), scoring 7.5/13 (+3 -1 =9). He followed up in April 2012 with 1st at the 6th Annual Grand Pacific Open held in British Columbia. He competed in the Tal Memorial (2012) held in June, scoring 4/9. In July/August 2012, Nakamura placed a solid =3rd at the Biel Chess Festival (2012), but underperformed at the European Club Cup (2012), although in October 2012, he recovered to some extent by winning the 4 player double round robin 16th Unive Tournament (2012) (crown group) with 4.5/6 (+3 -0 =3). Nakamura finished 2012 with a strong 3rd placement in the London Chess Classic (2012) behind Carlsen and Kramnik, adding enough rating points to restore him to the top 10.

2013 started with a modest 7/13 result for outright 6th at the Tata Steel Group A (2013) event. He then followed up in May 2013 with equal 2nd at the Norway Chess (2013) with 5.5/9, half a point behind Sergey Karjakin and 3rd on tiebreak behind Carlsen; he also placed =2nd with 6/9 at the preliminary Norway Chess (Blitz) (2013) held to determine the draw for the main tournament, and earned the right to play with the White pieces in 5 games out of 9. In June 2013, he contested the category 22 Tal Memorial (2013), and was outright leader after 6 rounds. However, he lost the last 3 game to place 6th with 4.5/9, winning more games (4) and losing more games (4) than any other player in the tournament. Soon after, he came =3rd in the Houston Open in July 2013. In September he played in the quadrangular double round robin category 22 Sinquefield Cup (2013), and was in contention for first place until the last round, when he drew against Gata Kamsky finishing second with 3.5/6 (+2 -1 =3; TPR 2863) behind Magnus Carlsen.

Nakamura's first event in 2014 was the category 20 Tata Steel Masters (2014) where he scored 5/11 (+2 -3 =6) to shed a few rating points for FIDE's February rating list. He next competed in the category 23 Zurich Chess Challenge (2014) in which he placed 4th with 2/5 after coming agonisingly close to defeating World Champion Magnus Carlsen. He came 2nd with 3.5/5 in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2014) which followed the standard time event, to remain in 4th in the overall event with the results of the standard and rapid events combined. In April, he participated in the inaugural Gashimov Memorial (2014), a category XXII 6-player DRR event inaugurated in honor of the late Azeri grandmaster, scoring 5/10 and placing =3rd behind Carlsen and Caruana. At the London Chess Classic (2014), he scored 2.5/5 to place 4th.

Nakamura's start to 2015 was to win the powerful Gibraltar Masters (2015) with 8.5/10 (+7 =3), and return a PB on his live rating and his new FIDE rating due in March. Despite cracking the 2800 barrier in the live ratings during the RR category 22 Zurich Chess Challenge (2015) held in February, he placed outright 2nd in the standard portion of the event behind Anand, ahead of Kramnik, Karjakin, Aronian and Caruana respectively. His second place in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2015) with 3/5 made him =1st with Anand in the overall event, but he won an Armageddon tiebreaker with the former World Champion to win first prize. His good form continued at the category 22 Norway Chess (2015) event, where he was undefeated to place =2nd (3rd on a narrow SB tiebreak), behind Topalov and alongside Anand with 6/9 and a TPR of 2900. In September he competed in the second leg of the inaugural Grand Chess Tour at Sinquefield Cup (2015), and finished equal second with 5/9 behind Aronian in what amounted to a par for rating performance. October saw Nakamura compete in the lucrative Millionaire Chess (2015) tournament, which he won after battling through a complicated tiebreak system that involved a playoff to decide a playoff for fourth, and then winning a knockout rapid game semi-final that was called after round 7 of 9 of the main standard time event. He finished the year with a poor performance at the London Chess Classic (2015) where he came in toward the bottom of the field after scoring 4/9.

He started 2016 with an upbeat result at the Gibraltar Masters (2016), winning first prize after a rapid and blitz game tiebreak that ended in an Armageddon victory against runner-up Maxime Vachier-Lagrave. He finished clear second at the
FIDE Grand Swiss (2023), scoring 8/11 (+5 =6 -0) and qualifying for the 2024 Candidates tournament.

Team Events

<Olympiads> Nakamura has represented the U.S. in the Olympiads of 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012 and 2014, helping his country to the bronze medal in 2006 and 2008. He scored 6/10 during the Khanty-Mansiysk Olympiad (2010) on top board for the USA and a performance rating of 2741 and 6/9 in the Istanbul Olympiad (2012), coming in fourth on top board. His overall score in Olympiads is 31 points accumulated in 49 games played.

<World Team Championship> Nakamura played board 1 for the USA at the World Team Championship (2010), scoring individual gold and team silver. He also played top board at the World Team Championship (2013), winning individual silver and helping his team to 4th place in the event.

<European Club Cup> He played top board for the SK Husek Vienna in the European Club Cup (2009) and top board for the Italian club Obiettivo Risarcimento Padova in 2012 and 2013, second board for the Italian club in 2014 and board 3 for the same club in 2015. He scored individual bronze in 2013 and 2014.

Rapids

Nakamura is one of the world's best rapid and blitz players, and the world's best bullet (one-minute) player. He regularly plays on the internet, usually at the ICC where he is the highest rated player (userid <Smallville>), and at Playchess, where he is known as <Star Wars>. He has set many rating records under different categories. In 2008, he challenged and broke blitz king Alexander Grischuk 's record at ICC of 3737, reaching 3750. Grischuk subsequently challenged Nakamura to a 20 game 3 minutes blitz match, which Nakamura took out convincingly by 14.5-5.5. (2) He also won the first ICC Open in 2011 ahead of over 2000 other contestants. (3)

In 2007, he won the annual Corsica Masters (2007), defeating Rustam Kasimdzhanov in the final. One of the most convincing demonstrations of Nakamura's ability as a rapid player was when he won the Trophee CCAS (2008), defeating Xiangzhi Bu, Anatoly Karpov and Vasyl Ivanchuk in the playoff matches to take first prize in a field that included Carlsen. Nakamura also defeated Carlsen to take out the BNbank Blitz (2009). He was runner-up to Ivanchuk at the Cap d'Agde (2010) in the playoff. He also defeated Rising Stars team mate Anish Giri for the right to play at Amber 2011.

In 2012, Nakamura won the trifecta of silver medals at the SportAccord World Mind Games (Men's Rapid) (2012), the World Mind Games (Men's Blitz) and the World Mind Games (Men's Blindfold) events. He closed out 2013 by winning the London Chess Classic (Knockout) (2013), defeating Gelfand in the final by 1.5-0.5, after qualifying for the final by winning the preliminary London Chess Classic (Group C) (2013).

In June 2014, he competed in both the World Rapid Championship (2014) and the World Blitz Championship (2014) that were held in Dubai. In the former, he scored a relatively meager 8.5/15, losing 40 rapid rating points, while he was much more successful in the latter, scoring 16/21, being the runner up by a point behind the winner Magnus Carlsen. His blitz rating skyrocketed to over 2900. Subsequently he competed in the Super Rapidplay Open that was a companion event to the 2014 London Classic (see above), winning the event with an almost perfect score of 9.5/10. He also competed in the London Elite Player Blitz that was the other companion event, and placed =1st with 6/10.

The 2016 edition of the Zurich Chess Challenge was a two-part event, which kicked off with a preliminary Zurich Chess Challenge (Opening Blitz) (2016) to determine who had three whites in the five rounds of the Zurich Chess Challenge (2016) (rapid). Nakamura placed first in the Opening Blitz earning the use of the white pieces in three of the five rounds of the first section of the actual tournament, the round robin rapid event where he placed equal first alongside Anand. Nakamura playing the black pieces three times in the second section of the event, the Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2016), again placed equal first with Anand to tie the overall score, but won on tiebreak to take first prize.

He has authored the book Bullet Chess: One Minute to Mate.

Matches

In December 2004, Nakamura played the best-of-six game Karjakin - Nakamura Match (2004) in the "Duelo de los Jovenes Prodigios" (Duel of the Wonder Boys) in Cuernavaca, Estado de Morelos, Mexico, winning 4.5-1.5 (+4 -1 =1). In May 2011 at the St Louis chess club, he won the Nakamura - Ponomariov Match (2011) by 3.5-2.5 (+2 =3 -1). In June 2014, he played for the Cez Trophy Navara - Nakamura Match (2014) in Praha, Czechia, which involved a 4-game standard time match against David Navara. He won the match by 3.5-0.5.

960 Chess

In August 2009, Nakamura defeated Aronian in Mainz, Germany to become the 960 world champion and remained unchallenged as such until Carlsen defeated him in a match in February 2018 by a margin of 14-10.

Ratings and rankings

Nakamura's highest ranking as a Junior (U20) was #3 in April 2004 and 2005. He first broke into the world's top 100 in October 2004 when he was still 16 years old, and has remained in the top 100 continuously since that time. He reached the world's top 10 in January 2011, and has remained in that elite group continuously since January 2013. In September 2015 his rating reached 2814 despite which he was still ranked world #4 behind Carlsen, Anand and Topalov respectively. However in October 2016, his ranking reached its highest point so far, 2816, when his ranking was world #2, his highest ranking so far.

Sources and references

(1) Wikipedia article: FIDE Grand Prix 2012–2013 (2) http://dod.ru/chess/game/Crest/Smal...; (3) Further details are at this post: Hikaru Nakamura; (4) https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast... (podcast interview by Ben Johnson through iTunes); Live rating list: http://www.2700chess.com/; Wikipedia article: Hikaru Nakamura

Last updated: 2024-04-14 20:46:42

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 page 1 of 191; games 1-25 of 4,760  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. S Predescu vs Nakamura 1-0641995U.S. National Scholastic Grade 2 ChampionshipB08 Pirc, Classical
2. Nakamura vs J Bonin 1-0361997Marshall Chess ClubC02 French, Advance
3. A Iljin vs Nakamura  1-0471997Wch U10E62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
4. A Bellaiche vs Nakamura  1-0601997Wch U10E97 King's Indian
5. B Amin vs Nakamura  1-0681997Wch U10A07 King's Indian Attack
6. Nakamura vs D Baramidze  0-1411997Wch U10B23 Sicilian, Closed
7. J Kleinman vs Nakamura  ½-½411997January CongressA49 King's Indian, Fianchetto without c4
8. L Au vs Nakamura 1-0431997Hawaii opB83 Sicilian
9. Nakamura vs B Karen 0-1521997Nassau FuturityB06 Robatsch
10. Nakamura vs V Eryomenko  1-0371997Wch U10B01 Scandinavian
11. M Lepan vs Nakamura  0-1351997Wch U10E61 King's Indian
12. Nakamura vs S Djukic  1-0281997Wch U10B23 Sicilian, Closed
13. B Karen vs Nakamura  0-1261998Nassau g/30B23 Sicilian, Closed
14. A Bisguier vs Nakamura 0-1211998Somerset ACN Action SwissE70 King's Indian
15. A Stripunsky vs Nakamura 0-1431998Marshall Chess ClubB40 Sicilian
16. Nakamura vs L Chipkin  1-0361998Nassau CC-chC13 French
17. Nakamura vs R Guevara  1-0351998Nassau CC-chC11 French
18. Nakamura vs R Panken  1-0441998Nassau CC-chB23 Sicilian, Closed
19. Nakamura vs L W Zemanian  1-0411998New York State-ch 120thC45 Scotch Game
20. J J Felber vs Nakamura  0-1431998New York State-ch 120thB33 Sicilian
21. S Goregliad vs Nakamura  1-0401998Nassau CC-chE62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
22. Silvio Niculescu vs Nakamura  1-0641998Nassau CC-chA04 Reti Opening
23. D Shapiro vs Nakamura  1-0431998Nassau CC-chE97 King's Indian
24. Nakamura vs S Barrientos Chavarriaga  0-1631998Wch U12B23 Sicilian, Closed
25. Nakamura vs A Kim  0-1451998Wch U12B23 Sicilian, Closed
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Aug-26-10  boz: Anand (as quoted by Riverbeast) in his laconic way asks the critical question. Nakamura will have to adjust. It's just pragmatism. Several hotshot tactitians before Nakamura got more solid according to necessity. Keres and Tal to name two at the highest level and probably many more lower down.

I've read that in his youth even Karpov preferred sharp tactical positions.

I agree with Riverbeast that Nakamura is much better positionally than he is given credit for and that the line between tactics and strategy is often blurred. Every strategic plan must be certified tactically and tactics almost always flow from superior postional play.

I also agree with with frogbert that Nakamura's opening play has matured considerably in the last few years. Those who think otherwise are either not paying attention or are not up-to-date.

Aug-26-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  tamar: <Incredibly frustrating draw today against Bacrot. Oh well, you can't win them all!>

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Aug-26-10  blueofnoon: Nakamura drew against Bacrot with black pieces, and in the middlegame it seemed he was a bit better. Not a bad result!

Pairings of next round is TBD, but you can always check it here. http://chess-results.com/tnr37376.a...

Aug-26-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  tamar: So...

if we put together the discussion can Nakamura play solidly and today's draw against Bacrot,

the answer is yes, he can play solidly, but it is an incredibly frustrating experience for him.

Aug-26-10  blueofnoon: By the way I still do not understand this argument about "talent" at all.

Suppose player A and B have approximately same rating in slow chess.

Player A has an ample experience of fast games, and played over 40,000 blitz games on the internet.

Player B, on the other hand, does not have such fanatical interest in fast games, and he likes more to study endgames and middle game strategies.

Now, isn't it really natural player A beats player B easily in a 5 minute game? Isn't it also natural that player A generally finds a move faster than player B even in a slower game?

And how does it prove anything about player A's and B's talent?

I would say they are "equally talented", and just prefer different approaches to our game.

Aug-26-10  Riverbeast: <blueofnoon> It's hard to quantify talent, I guess...It's something that is easier recognized, perhaps, than put into words

And it can manifest itself in different ways...Not just finding a good move quickly (although that can be one indicator)

How well does one understand what one studies?

How well can someone improve just from playing, without studying?

In your example, it's still possible that Player B, who plays little blitz, can still beat Player A, the blitz fanatic and more experienced blitz player, in a series of 5 minute games.

This would possibly be an indicator that Player B is more talented

Conversely, it's possible that player A, who only plays blitz on the internet and rarely studies, can still outplay player B in a series of endgames, or slow games

This could mean that player A is more talented

It's really difficult to make a hard and fast rule of what chess talent is

But originality of style, I think, is also an indicator of talent....Especially when one can play an original style, break certain 'rules', and still beat strong players

Aug-26-10  blueofnoon: I still do not understand.

In my opinion, and I believe most of you would agree, that in chess experience plays the most important role, and especially experience gained between age 12 - 20 is critical to determine how far you can go. Because once you past age 20, it becomes harder and harder to learn new things.

Now, it's a fact Nakamura spent most of this period playing online blitz and US events, where he had to win every game to raise his rating points.

Therefore, it's no wonder he is fantastic in fast chess, unbalancing a game from the beginning, setting traps which are hard to avoid in time trouble. In those stuff he might be even better than Magnus Carlsen.

However, in chess there are other qualifications as well, such as playing long endgames accurately, strengthen your position slowly but surely, and perhaps most important, playing for a draw when necessary.

In these areas, not only Carlsen, but also Nakamura's other rivals such as Karjakin, Caruana, Giri, seem to do better job.

Now, what puzzles me is some of your continuous desire to put Nakamura ahead of those guys in terms of his talent, just because he's better in some area.

Maybe you do not like endgames, positional chess, and especially draws, but they are part of chess as well. And most importantly, unlike Nakamura, the guys I named above are not 20 years old yet.

Aug-26-10  dx9293: I agree with Riverbeast that judging talent is far from an exact science. I also have the feeling that I know it when I see it...I also have a feeling (no, I cannot prove it) when I see a player who is well-trained in contrast to one who is talented. [This doesn't reference Nakamura, Carlsen, or anyone else, I'm just speaking in general here.]

As far as being supremely talented positionally/technically, for me the biggest talents were Rubinstein, Capablanca, Smyslov, and Kramnik. Fischer and Andersson are also very high on my list.

As far as Karpov is concerned, I believe that Semyon Furman taught him quite a lot, and it was a great loss for Karpov's career that this incredible trainer and positional player died in 1978. Play through Furman's best games and judge for yourself...

<Carlsen, Karjakin, Caruana, Giri>

I've said before that Carlsen is the best practical player in the world. THAT is where his ability lies, and in this area nobody can touch him...the question is, will other players who have more tactical or strategic talent than Carlsen be able to deal with him long-term? Only those few who are not afraid of him. Nakamura could be one, Aronian could be another.

Karjakin is talented, but I think he is not so talented as people make him out to be. I think Dokhoian will have to work miracles to make this guy a world champion.

Caruana, as I've said before, has been "crammed up since childhood," to borrow Morozevich's phrase. 2760+ player in the making, but world champion? I would be surprised. I think he is the new Leko.

Giri: obviously a really strong player, but I'm not ready to make a statement on his talent yet, I need to look at him more closely.

Aug-26-10  Luca Brasi: <dx9293>what about Kasparov?
Aug-26-10  frogbert: <I agree with Riverbeast that judging talent is far from an exact science.>

then you agree with blueofnoon, too. :o) and with me. in fact, i'm unsure if you disagree with anyone - as blueofnoon said, "talent" can mean anything and everything - it's got no precise definition; that was possibly his main point ...

Aug-26-10  frogbert: <Carlsen is the best practical player in the world. THAT is where his ability lies, and in this area nobody can touch him...>

what do you mean by this, dx9293?

i don't question that carlsen is a very good "practical player", but is this a unique type of talent, or do you think it is a result of his (accumulated) talent in other areas? or both?

how do you break down "talent"? what are the main categories (not necessarily completely non-overlapping)?

<other players who have more tactical or strategic talent than Carlsen>

you mentioned kramnik, but is there anyone else among current players you consider to have greater strategic (positional) talent than carlsen? are you able to explain how this materializes otb?

hard questions - i know - but it would be interesting if you gave it a shot answering them! :o)

Aug-27-10  Rolfo: As Gelfand put it, Carlsen don't need an advantage from the opening, he can do with a playable position
Aug-27-10  kapivarov: Naka is playing now Daniel Alsina Leal for the CECLUB 5th round. Is it right? Didn't he beat the same guy for the 3rd round?
Aug-27-10
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  tamar: Apropos of the discussion, what constitutes a playable position?

Does it differ among the top players?

Today for example, white against GM Daniel Alsina Leal 2546 FIDE ELO,

1 g3 e5 2 Bg2 d5 3 d3 Nf6 4 Nf3 Nc6 5 a3 a5 6 c4 Be7 7 Nc3?! provoking the advance d4 8 Na4 0-0 9 0-0 Re8

Question: is Nakamura playing to rating? Does he consider this playable because he doesn't think his opponent can beat him, and would he consider it unplayable against say Gelfand?

Aug-27-10  frogbert: well, nakamura played the exact same opponent in round 3 - and beat him.

due to the championship entering cup stages after round 4, naka's team was paired against their round 3 opponent again - in the lower bracket (places 5-10). i guess that means that naka gets a lower rated opponent in the last round tomorrow, too.

Aug-27-10  Bobsterman3000: <because it appears that he's not put in the work needed to get there - but that's still an assumption on my part; it might be that his potential in terms of "intuition", "positional mastery", "opening repertoir & excellency" is notably lower than in the tactical department. >

Exactly, Carlsen has already maxed out his abilities and Nakamura dominates him at the one thing that Naka really focuses on - blitz.

When Naka makes a full commitment to classical chess he will own Magnus there, too.

Aug-27-10  guaguanco: <Exactly, Carlsen has already maxed out his abilities and Nakamura dominates him at the one thing that Naka really focuses on - blitz. When Naka makes a full commitment to classical chess he will own Magnus there, too.>

Calsen may not be at full strength yet, and Nakamura's window for radical improvement won't last forever.

Aug-27-10  Kinghunt: <Exactly, Carlsen has already maxed out his abilities and Nakamura dominates him at the one thing that Naka really focuses on - blitz.>

Well, I hate to bring this old topic up again, but Nakamura has not convincingly demonstrated that he is superior to Carlsen in blitz. They have played a single four game match, in which Carlsen won the first game, got an easily winning position in the second game before making several completely uncharacteristic blunders, and only lost the fourth because the match situation required him to reject a draw by repetition and try to go for a non-existent win. Now, before I get accused of any anti-Nakamura agenda, I just want to say that I'm not saying Carlsen played better than Nakamura and was the one who really deserved the win, but I'm simply sick and tired of people referencing such an unclear (and short) match as "proof" that Nakamura dominates Carlsen in blitz.

Aug-27-10  Bobsterman3000: <Well, I hate to bring this old topic up again, but Nakamura has not convincingly demonstrated that he is superior to Carlsen in blitz.>

Watch this video again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rK5...

Throughout that event, Nakamura looked calm, composed and in control. Magnus looked like an emotional little girl flailing all over the place, before stomping off at 10:07 and almost tripping over chairs because he ran off like a drowsy sissy.

Magnus' body language shows that he was clearly <intimidated> and you can see that in the other videos, too.

"Press 1 little b****"

LOL

Aug-27-10  whatthefat: <Bobsterman>

Wow, you really refuted <Kinghunt>'s points there.

Aug-27-10  Riverbeast: I would think at this point, Nakamura's reputation in blitz helps him out also....He probably has a certain psychological advantage against any GM he plays in blitz

And as we all know in chess, having your opponent fear you (or respect you a little too much), can affect the game as much (or more) than any moves played on the board.

I'm curious to see Nakamura play in the World Blitz Championship next year....I know who I would bet on

Aug-27-10  rogge: <I'm curious to see Nakamura play in the World Blitz Championship next year....I know who I would bet on>

Carlsen's participation is confirmed. Hopefully Nakamura plays too, in order to end the <blitz krieg> ;)

Aug-27-10  SetNoEscapeOn: ...nor is anybody conceding that Carlsen and Nakamura have somehow established themselves as belonging to a separate, elevated category in blitz just because of Carlsen's brilliant performance at the Tal Memorial and Nakamura's 4 game match win in blitz against Carlsen.

Rather I simply say: Carlsen is the world blitz champion (a well deserved title), Nakamura is also obviously extremely strong, and we'll see what happens when they next play with Anand, Ivanchuk, and the rest.

Aug-27-10  boz: <Carlsen's participation is confirmed. Hopefully Nakamura plays too, in order to end the <blitz krieg> ;)>

Rather, let the kreig begin!

Aug-27-10  Rolfo: Naka should go to Moscow and try to qualify if he is not invited.
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