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Hikaru Nakamura
Nakamura 
 

Number of games in database: 3,917
Years covered: 1995 to 2025
Last FIDE rating: 2804 (2734 rapid, 2837 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2816
Overall record: +594 -246 =725 (61.1%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 2352 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (273) 
    B90 B30 B23 B51 B42
 Ruy Lopez (173) 
    C65 C67 C77 C78 C84
 Reti System (148) 
    A04 A06 A05
 Queen's Gambit Declined (119) 
    D37 D31 D38 D30 D35
 Queen's Pawn Game (115) 
    A45 D00 E10 D02 E00
 Grunfeld (77) 
    D85 D70 D78 D91 D80
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (251) 
    B90 B30 B80 B22 B92
 Ruy Lopez (247) 
    C67 C65 C70 C78 C72
 Queen's Gambit Declined (156) 
    D37 D31 D30 D39 D06
 Queen's Pawn Game (123) 
    D02 A45 A40 A41 A46
 King's Indian (114) 
    E97 E92 E90 E63 E94
 Giuoco Piano (107) 
    C53 C50 C54
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Krasenkow vs Nakamura, 2007 0-1
   Gelfand vs Nakamura, 2010 0-1
   Rybka vs Nakamura, 2008 0-1
   So vs Nakamura, 2015 0-1
   G Sagalchik vs Nakamura, 2003 0-1
   Crafty vs Nakamura, 2007 0-1
   Nakamura vs Karjakin, 2004 1-0
   Nakamura vs Kramnik, 2012 1-0
   Nakamura vs J W Loyte, 2001 1-0
   A Beliavsky vs Nakamura, 2009 0-1

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Trophee CCAS (2008)
   Corsica Masters (2007)
   Meltwater Tour Final (2021)
   Magnus Carlsen Invitational (2020)
   Bullet Chess Championship (2023)
   Ordix Open (2009)
   Chess.com Speed Chess Championship 2017/18 (2017)
   chess.com Speed Chess (2020)
   Chess.com SpeedChess Finals (2024)
   New In Chess Classic (2021)
   Magnus Carlsen Chess Tour Finals (2020)
   Tata Steel India (2022)
   Champions Showdown (2019)
   Pro Chess League (2018)
   PRO League Group Stage (2019)

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   Notable Nakamura Games by caracas1970
   book: Fighting Chess with Hikaru Nakamura by Baby Hawk
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   Vid e o put Fredthebear in th is cent ury by fredthebear
   Notable Nakamura Games by iron maiden
   2020 The Corona Beer & Black Bears Matter Mo Ode by fredthebear
   Hikaru! by larrewl
   Match Nakamura! by docjan
   Match Nakamura! by amadeus

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   Wei Yi vs Nakamura (Jun-06-25) 1/2-1/2
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   Nakamura vs A Erigaisi (Jun-05-25) 1-0, armageddon
   Nakamura vs D Gukesh (Jun-03-25) 1-0
   Carlsen vs Nakamura (Jun-02-25) 1-0, armageddon

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HIKARU NAKAMURA
(born Dec-09-1987, 37 years old) Japan (federation/nationality United States of America)

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IM (2001); GM (2003). Hikaru Nakamura won the US Championship in 2004, 2009, 2012, 2015 and 2019. He was the world's second-ranked player as of October 2015. In July 2023, he married WGM Atousa Pourkashiyan.

Prodigy

Christopher Hikaru Nakamura was born December 9, 1987 in Hirakata in Osaka, Japan, to a Japanese father and an American mother. He is the younger brother of Asuka Nakamura. When he was two years old, he and his mother and brother moved to the United States. He started playing chess when he was seven, coached by his stepfather, Sunil Weeramantry. He was the youngest player in US history to defeat an International Master (Jay Bonin) in a USCF-rated game (10 years, 0 months), to become a National Master (USCF) (10 years, 79 days), to defeat a Grandmaster (Arthur Bisguier) in a USCF-rated game (10 years, 117 days), and to become an IM (13 years, 2 months), although most of these records have subsequently been surpassed. In 2003 he became the USA's youngest-ever grandmaster (15 years, 2 months and 19 days), a record later broken by Fabiano Caruana and Ray Robson.

Championships

<Youth> In 2001 he won the World U14 championship.

<National> When he won the Chessmaster US Championship 2005 (2004) (on tiebreak from Alexander Stripunsky), he was the youngest player to win the US championship since Robert James Fischer. He also won the US Championship (2009) outright by half a point ahead of the joint runners-up Robert Hess and Alexander Onischuk, and the United States Championship (2012) outright by a full point ahead of the winner of the 2010 and 2011 events, Gata Kamsky. He won the national title for a fourth time when he took out the US Championship (2015) with 8/11, half a point ahead of the outright runner up Ray Robson.

<World championship cycle> Seeded number 87 and aged 16, Nakamura reached the final 16 in the FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (2004), defeating 46th seed Sergey Volkov, 19th seeded Aleksej Aleksandrov, and 51st seed Alexander Lastin in the preliminary rounds before bowing out to number 3 seed and finalist Michael Adams in the round of 16. He qualified to play in the World Cup (2013) through his rating, and defeated Peruvian WGM Deysi Estela Cori Tello in the first round, Azeri GM Eltaj Safarli in the second round and Indian GM Baskaran Adhiban in the third round, but was eliminated in the Round of 16 (fourth round) by Ukrainian GM Anton Korobov. He qualified by rating to participate in the World Cup (2015), and is doing so although he has already qualified for the Candidates Tournament of 2016 via the Grand Prix series of 2014-15. He defeated Richmond Phiri, Sam Shankland in the first two rounds, as well as Ian Nepomniachtchi in a third round thriller that Nakamura won in the deciding Armageddon blitz tiebreaker game after the three previous sets of rapid and blitz tiebreakers had been drawn. In the Round of 16 (the fourth round) he won against Michael Adams by 1.5-0.5 but lost to Pavel Eljanov in the quarter final, bowing out of the event.

<Grand Prix Series 2012-2013> He started the Grand Prix series with last at the FIDE Grand Prix London (2012). After bouncing back into contention with outright second in the FIDE Grand Prix Zug (2013), a poor showing at the FIDE Grand Prix Thessaloniki (2013) eliminated him from contention for the top 2 spots that would have qualified him for the 2014 Candidates Tournament. (1) He did however place 3rd behind Fabiano Caruana and Boris Gelfand in the FIDE Grand Prix Paris (2013) to accumulate 300 GP points and place 6th in the 2012-13 Grand Prix series. Subsequently, his only chance to play in the 2014 Candidates Tournament was to be nominated as the Organizer's wild card once the venue was settled, however this did not eventuate.

<Grand Prix Series 2014-2015> Nakamura competed in the first leg of the series at the FIDE Grand Prix Baku (2014), where he scored 6/11 to place 3rd-7th, half a point behind the joint leaders Caruana and Gelfand. He therefore kicked off with a GP tally of 82 points, representing the even distribution of points applicable to each place from 3rd to 7th. In the second leg of the series, namely the FIDE Grand Prix Tashkent (2014), he placed =2nd and stood in 2nd place overall, excellently situated to take advantage of the opportunity to qualify for the Candidates tournament in 2016. He took full advantage of this in FIDE Grand Prix Khanty-Mansiysk (2015), when he came =1st to qualify for the Candidates Tournament of 2016.

Standard tournaments

In 2005, he won the 7th Foxwoods Open (2005).

In 2007, he won both the National Open (2007) that was held in Las Vegas and the Casino de Barcelona (2007).

The following year, he beat Xiangzhi Bu in the play-off to win the Gibraltar Masters (2008) Masters Open with 8.0/10.

Nakamura tied for first with Evgeny Najer at the 37th World Open (2009) after taking two last-day byes, each worth half a point and won the Donostia Chess Festival (2009) in tiebreak over Ruslan Ponomariov.

In 2010, he came =4th at Corus Group A (2010), and was equal top scorer in the victorious Rising Stars team in the Rising Stars - Experience (2010) tournament. He scored 5/9 (+1 -0 =8) at the Tal Memorial (2010), placing =4th, and finished the year with =4th place in the London Chess Classic (2010).

Nakamura began 2011 by taking clear first place at the A-Group of the prestigious category 20 Tata Steel Group A (2011) (formerly Corus) with a 9/13 score (+6 -1 =6) and a 2880 performance rating, ahead of a powerful field including the world's top four players: World Champion Viswanathan Anand, Magnus Carlsen, Levon Aronian and former World Champion Vladimir Kramnik. In June 2011, Nakamura placed =3rd in the Bazna King's Tournament (2011), in July he scored 4.5/10 at Dortmund Sparkassen (2011), in August he came =1st in the 2011 US Open Championship with 7.5/9 and in October he came =3rd in the Grand Slam Chess Final (2011) with 5/10. The following month, he suffered a lapse in form at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2011), scoring 3/9 and coming last but recovered to finish 2011 with second place behind Kramnik at the category 20 London Chess Classic (2011), scoring +4 -1 =3 (TPR of 2887).

He started 2012 by coming =2nd (4th on count back) at the Reggio Emilia (2011), half a point behind Anish Giri, and then came =5th at Tata Steel Group A (2012), scoring 7.5/13 (+3 -1 =9). He followed up in April 2012 with 1st at the 6th Annual Grand Pacific Open held in British Columbia. He competed in the Tal Memorial (2012) held in June, scoring 4/9. In July/August 2012, Nakamura placed a solid =3rd at the Biel Chess Festival (2012), but underperformed at the European Club Cup (2012), although in October 2012, he recovered to some extent by winning the 4 player double round robin 16th Unive Tournament (2012) (crown group) with 4.5/6 (+3 -0 =3). Nakamura finished 2012 with a strong 3rd placement in the London Chess Classic (2012) behind Carlsen and Kramnik, adding enough rating points to restore him to the top 10.

2013 started with a modest 7/13 result for outright 6th at the Tata Steel Group A (2013) event. He then followed up in May 2013 with equal 2nd at the Norway Chess (2013) with 5.5/9, half a point behind Sergey Karjakin and 3rd on tiebreak behind Carlsen; he also placed =2nd with 6/9 at the preliminary Norway Chess (Blitz) (2013) held to determine the draw for the main tournament, and earned the right to play with the White pieces in 5 games out of 9. In June 2013, he contested the category 22 Tal Memorial (2013), and was outright leader after 6 rounds. However, he lost the last 3 game to place 6th with 4.5/9, winning more games (4) and losing more games (4) than any other player in the tournament. Soon after, he came =3rd in the Houston Open in July 2013. In September he played in the quadrangular double round robin category 22 Sinquefield Cup (2013), and was in contention for first place until the last round, when he drew against Gata Kamsky finishing second with 3.5/6 (+2 -1 =3; TPR 2863) behind Magnus Carlsen.

Nakamura's first event in 2014 was the category 20 Tata Steel Masters (2014) where he scored 5/11 (+2 -3 =6) to shed a few rating points for FIDE's February rating list. He next competed in the category 23 Zurich Chess Challenge (2014) in which he placed 4th with 2/5 after coming agonisingly close to defeating World Champion Magnus Carlsen. He came 2nd with 3.5/5 in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2014) which followed the standard time event, to remain in 4th in the overall event with the results of the standard and rapid events combined. In April, he participated in the inaugural Gashimov Memorial (2014), a category XXII 6-player DRR event inaugurated in honor of the late Azeri grandmaster, scoring 5/10 and placing =3rd behind Carlsen and Caruana. At the London Chess Classic (2014), he scored 2.5/5 to place 4th.

Nakamura's start to 2015 was to win the powerful Gibraltar Masters (2015) with 8.5/10 (+7 =3), and return a PB on his live rating and his new FIDE rating due in March. Despite cracking the 2800 barrier in the live ratings during the RR category 22 Zurich Chess Challenge (2015) held in February, he placed outright 2nd in the standard portion of the event behind Anand, ahead of Kramnik, Karjakin, Aronian and Caruana respectively. His second place in the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2015) with 3/5 made him =1st with Anand in the overall event, but he won an Armageddon tiebreaker with the former World Champion to win first prize. His good form continued at the category 22 Norway Chess (2015) event, where he was undefeated to place =2nd (3rd on a narrow SB tiebreak), behind Topalov and alongside Anand with 6/9 and a TPR of 2900. In September he competed in the second leg of the inaugural Grand Chess Tour at Sinquefield Cup (2015), and finished equal second with 5/9 behind Aronian in what amounted to a par for rating performance. October saw Nakamura compete in the lucrative Millionaire Chess (2015) tournament, which he won after battling through a complicated tiebreak system that involved a playoff to decide a playoff for fourth, and then winning a knockout rapid game semi-final that was called after round 7 of 9 of the main standard time event. He finished the year with a poor performance at the London Chess Classic (2015) where he came in toward the bottom of the field after scoring 4/9.

He started 2016 with an upbeat result at the Gibraltar Masters (2016), winning first prize after a rapid and blitz game tiebreak that ended in an Armageddon victory against runner-up Maxime Vachier-Lagrave. He finished clear second at the
FIDE Grand Swiss (2023), scoring 8/11 (+5 =6 -0) and qualifying for the 2024 Candidates tournament.

Team Events

<Olympiads> Nakamura has represented the U.S. in the Olympiads of 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012 and 2014, helping his country to the bronze medal in 2006 and 2008. He scored 6/10 during the Khanty-Mansiysk Olympiad (2010) on top board for the USA and a performance rating of 2741 and 6/9 in the Istanbul Olympiad (2012), coming in fourth on top board. His overall score in Olympiads is 31 points accumulated in 49 games played.

<World Team Championship> Nakamura played board 1 for the USA at the World Team Championship (2010), scoring individual gold and team silver. He also played top board at the World Team Championship (2013), winning individual silver and helping his team to 4th place in the event.

<European Club Cup> He played top board for the SK Husek Vienna in the European Club Cup (2009) and top board for the Italian club Obiettivo Risarcimento Padova in 2012 and 2013, second board for the Italian club in 2014 and board 3 for the same club in 2015. He scored individual bronze in 2013 and 2014.

Rapids

Nakamura is one of the world's best rapid and blitz players, and the world's best bullet (one-minute) player. He regularly plays on the internet, usually at the ICC where he is the highest rated player (userid <Smallville>), and at Playchess, where he is known as <Star Wars>. He has set many rating records under different categories. In 2008, he challenged and broke blitz king Alexander Grischuk 's record at ICC of 3737, reaching 3750. Grischuk subsequently challenged Nakamura to a 20 game 3 minutes blitz match, which Nakamura took out convincingly by 14.5-5.5. (2) He also won the first ICC Open in 2011 ahead of over 2000 other contestants. (3)

In 2007, he won the annual Corsica Masters (2007), defeating Rustam Kasimdzhanov in the final. One of the most convincing demonstrations of Nakamura's ability as a rapid player was when he won the Trophee CCAS (2008), defeating Xiangzhi Bu, Anatoly Karpov and Vasyl Ivanchuk in the playoff matches to take first prize in a field that included Carlsen. Nakamura also defeated Carlsen to take out the BNbank Blitz (2009). He was runner-up to Ivanchuk at the Cap d'Agde (2010) in the playoff. He also defeated Rising Stars team mate Anish Giri for the right to play at Amber 2011.

In 2012, Nakamura won the trifecta of silver medals at the SportAccord World Mind Games (Men's Rapid) (2012), the World Mind Games (Men's Blitz) and the World Mind Games (Men's Blindfold) events. He closed out 2013 by winning the London Chess Classic (Knockout) (2013), defeating Gelfand in the final by 1.5-0.5, after qualifying for the final by winning the preliminary London Chess Classic (Group C) (2013).

In June 2014, he competed in both the World Rapid Championship (2014) and the World Blitz Championship (2014) that were held in Dubai. In the former, he scored a relatively meager 8.5/15, losing 40 rapid rating points, while he was much more successful in the latter, scoring 16/21, being the runner up by a point behind the winner Magnus Carlsen. His blitz rating skyrocketed to over 2900. Subsequently he competed in the Super Rapidplay Open that was a companion event to the 2014 London Classic (see above), winning the event with an almost perfect score of 9.5/10. He also competed in the London Elite Player Blitz that was the other companion event, and placed =1st with 6/10.

The 2016 edition of the Zurich Chess Challenge was a two-part event, which kicked off with a preliminary Zurich Chess Challenge (Opening Blitz) (2016) to determine who had three whites in the five rounds of the Zurich Chess Challenge (2016) (rapid). Nakamura placed first in the Opening Blitz earning the use of the white pieces in three of the five rounds of the first section of the actual tournament, the round robin rapid event where he placed equal first alongside Anand. Nakamura playing the black pieces three times in the second section of the event, the Zurich Chess Challenge (Blitz) (2016), again placed equal first with Anand to tie the overall score, but won on tiebreak to take first prize.

He has authored the book Bullet Chess: One Minute to Mate.

Matches

In December 2004, Nakamura played the best-of-six game Karjakin - Nakamura Match (2004) in the "Duelo de los Jovenes Prodigios" (Duel of the Wonder Boys) in Cuernavaca, Estado de Morelos, Mexico, winning 4.5-1.5 (+4 -1 =1). In May 2011 at the St Louis chess club, he won the Nakamura - Ponomariov Match (2011) by 3.5-2.5 (+2 =3 -1). In June 2014, he played for the Cez Trophy Navara - Nakamura Match (2014) in Praha, Czechia, which involved a 4-game standard time match against David Navara. He won the match by 3.5-0.5.

960 Chess

In August 2009, Nakamura defeated Aronian in Mainz, Germany to become the 960 world champion and remained unchallenged as such until Carlsen defeated him in a match in February 2018 by a margin of 14-10.

Ratings and rankings

Nakamura's highest ranking as a Junior (U20) was #3 in April 2004 and 2005. He first broke into the world's top 100 in October 2004 when he was still 16 years old, and has remained in the top 100 continuously since that time. He reached the world's top 10 in January 2011, and has remained in that elite group continuously since January 2013. In September 2015 his rating reached 2814 despite which he was still ranked world #4 behind Carlsen, Anand and Topalov respectively. However in October 2016, his ranking reached its highest point so far, 2816, when his ranking was world #2, his highest ranking so far.

Sources and references

(1) Wikipedia article: FIDE Grand Prix 2012–2013 (2) http://dod.ru/chess/game/Crest/Smal...; (3) Further details are at this post: Hikaru Nakamura; (4) https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast... (podcast interview by Ben Johnson through iTunes); Live rating list: http://www.2700chess.com/; Wikipedia article: Hikaru Nakamura

Last updated: 2024-04-14 20:46:42

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 page 1 of 157; games 1-25 of 3,918  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. S Predescu vs Nakamura 1-0641995U.S. National Scholastic Grade 2 ChampionshipB08 Pirc, Classical
2. L Au vs Nakamura 1-0431997Hawaii opB83 Sicilian
3. Nakamura vs J Bonin 1-0361997Marshall Chess ClubC02 French, Advance
4. J Kleinman vs Nakamura  ½-½411997January CongressA49 King's Indian, Fianchetto without c4
5. Nakamura vs B Karen 0-1521997Nassau FuturityB06 Robatsch
6. A Bisguier vs Nakamura 0-1211998Somerset ACN Action SwissE70 King's Indian
7. B Karen vs Nakamura  0-1261998Nassau g/30B23 Sicilian, Closed
8. A Stripunsky vs Nakamura 0-1431998Marshall Chess ClubB40 Sicilian
9. P MacIntyre vs Nakamura  1-0541998US Amateur Team EastA07 King's Indian Attack
10. J Thinnsen vs Nakamura 1-035199899th US OpenA45 Queen's Pawn Game
11. Nakamura vs I Krush 1-062199899th US OpenB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
12. S Kriventsov vs Nakamura  1-0241999Rated TournamentB80 Sicilian, Scheveningen
13. Nakamura vs J Fang 0-12119998th Eastern Class ChampionshipsB73 Sicilian, Dragon, Classical
14. A David vs Nakamura  1-025199927th World OpenB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
15. Nakamura vs W Paschall  ½-½251999North Bay OpenB65 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...Be7 Defense, 9...Nxd4
16. J Hebert vs Nakamura  1-0601999North Bay OpenE97 King's Indian
17. Nakamura vs V Rajlich  1-0521999North Bay OpenB90 Sicilian, Najdorf
18. G Taylor vs Nakamura  1-0311999North Bay OpenE75 King's Indian, Averbakh, Main line
19. Nakamura vs F Baragar  0-1451999North Bay OpenC17 French, Winawer, Advance
20. M Stroud vs Nakamura  0-1371999North Bay OpenE92 King's Indian
21. S Glinert vs Nakamura  ½-½381999North Bay OpenA07 King's Indian Attack
22. D Moody vs Nakamura 0-1201999100th US OpenB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
23. Nakamura vs A Aleksandrov ½-½601999100th US OpenC45 Scotch Game
24. A Wojtkiewicz vs Nakamura 1-0421999100th US OpenE62 King's Indian, Fianchetto
25. Nakamura vs G Gaiffe 1-0541999100th US OpenB23 Sicilian, Closed
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Feb-01-10  frogbert: <i believe its good to have elite players from several country's in addition to fairness.>

geographical diversity could be argued to represent "fairness" to some degree. obviously such diversity can't be a goal in <every> single top event, as it would be highly unfair towards the better nations and their players - fide's wcc is an example of an event where <world> championship "feel" takes priority over letting all the best players have a "fair" chance to participate.

in fact, it does appear that organizers of the super-gm events already try to put together fields that will draw attention from a world-wide audience.

Feb-01-10  blueofnoon: Indeed, players like Grischuk, Gashimov, Eljanov, Vitiugov, Tomashevsky deserve more recognition and invitations from tournament organizers.
Feb-01-10  Atking: <boz: Sorry I missed the games over the weekend. Very glad for Nakamura. Outstanding result. Congratulations!> The last one was pretty good in pratical terms, without over pushing (Like he did vs Karjakin) Nakamura kept matters enough complex and won quite easily. I regret the game vs Caruana in which Nakamura got a real advantage. This realistic half point could have put him shared second with Kramnik. But in all for this first attempt a great result.

Kramnik's recognition about Nakamura strenght (among the best ten in the world) is one of the best prize of this tournament.

Feb-01-10  frogbert: < (among the best ten in the world)>

i don't remember kramnik saying that nakamura <is> among the top ten. didn't he say that naka would probably <become> top ten in a couple of years?

corrections are welcome.

Feb-01-10  frogbert: i took down essentially everything kramnik said about nakamura, from the point where he answered jokingly about naka's chances to become world champion in "say 5 years" - yes, sure

"... when all of us will stop playing chess ..."

<loud laughter from the audience, kramnik smiling broadly>

"no, no, i'm joking, but seriously... seriously speaking he is one of the most talented guys now, i mean... he think he has chance... he improved actually a lot last year. i mean... one year ago i was not so... let's say optimistic about his chances, but now i see that he made a very big improvement. he's becoming a very, very strong player. i mean and. i consider him... i think he will be pretty soon in top 10. i'm pretty sure about it. it will take him maybe only one more year being in top 10, and then of course every player of top 10 has his chances. and so... and especially since he's young... i think he's got a good chance, but... there are also some other guys, obviously. carlsen is not bad, and this young giri seems to be very impressive, so...

in fact it's now very interesting situation in the world of chess, because there are actually quite a few very, very talented youngsters in my opinion."

in particular this part:

<one year ago i was not so... let's say optimistic about his chances, but now i see that he made a very big improvement.>

is quite close to my own assessment - the difference being of course that when kramnik adjusts his view <based on what he used to see and (now) sees from naka> then the nakamura fans do not attack kramnik as a hater and a naysayer that has been proven wrong, but rather embraces him and his new praise for nakamura.

kramnik appears a sensible man - realistic, and with a sense of humour. :o)

Feb-01-10  gus inn: But at the end of the day, both <frogbert> and <Kramnik> did not estimate his chances level to what reality has shown now.

But we all make mistakes ;)

Feb-01-10  firebyrd: An estimate that turns out to be off is not necessarily a mistake, it may still have been the best estimate at the time. Eg. the best estimate for the result of a roll of a single die is 3.5, even if it will never match the subsequent roll exactly.
Feb-01-10  Atking: I found funny the way you react almost immediatly to your own post frogbert.

No time to answer it. Still I see a realistic difference between <a couple of years> and Kramnik <I think he will be pretty soon in top 10. i'm pretty sure about it. It will take him maybe only one more year being in top 10...>.

Being on the feast: Carlsen did very well in Corus too and Nakamura for his first attempt was also very impressive.

Young talents are very good for the future of chess. Many challengers under the sky. By the way I'm also very impressed by Anish Giri.

Feb-01-10  Atking: For whom who does know well Nakamura, who is his trainer? I guess that all these top players are working with a strong GM.
Feb-01-10  frogbert: < a realistic difference between <a couple of years> and Kramnik <I think he will be pretty soon in top 10. i'm pretty sure about it. It will take him maybe only one more year being in top 10...>.>

atking, you refer to what i first thought kramnik had said? i hadn't seen/listened to the video myself, and only went by what i've read other people say. i always try to be precise, and hence i often correct my own posts as soon as i notice some mistake or inaccuracy.

<both <frogbert> and <Kramnik> did not estimate his chances level to what reality has shown now.>

yes and no. please note that circumstances have changed, gus inn. i always had great faith in nakamura's talent and what he could make of it, <if he really tried>. so far he hasn't at all outperformed what i thought possible given a serious approach to chess. and there's no doubt that nakamura has made many of the moves i consider right, in order to improve as a player over the last year.

unlike many people here, i typically express myself in terms of <conditionals>. that means, i don't typically say: "such and such will happen. period." instead i usually say something like <if> such and such, <then it's probable that ...>. or <unless> such and such, <this or that will probably not happen>.

you are right in the sense that i take very little for granted, before i actually see it happening. i've always done the same thing regarding carlsen. you won't hear me saying that carlsen is guaranteed to become world champion, for instance. he's probably already strong enough to theoretically be able to win a match against anyone, even if maybe all of anand, kramnik and topalov should be considered favourites in a match today, mostly due to much more match experience.

hence, picturing my restrained statements about <anything> in the future as some kind of negative attitude or belittlement of nakamura's potential would appear wrong and unfair. i simply don't like getting ahead of matters.

as i think i have demonstrated clearly for several years, i always give credit to nakamura when he does something <i> consider impressive. for instance when he won the strong barcelona event in 2007 (ahead of for instance dominguez). "strong" here means strong compared to almost any other event nakamura played back then, of course.

also, i've repeatedly said nakamura should play more <strong> events, in order to get the most out of his potential. i've wanted nakamura to make <ambitious choices> and i've been disappointed when he's chosen not to, focusing more on short-term gains (money) than challenging his capabilities.

in that sense <i've cared much more for nakamura's development> than many of his fans who seemed to be happy with nakamura winning swiss opens in the us and playing blitz on icc. while those things might be both entertaining and fun, it did little to further his career - which has been <my> "goal" for nakamura.

now he's been making smart choices for more than 1,5 years, and i'm happy about the improvement and successes it has lead to. still, when people start talking as if he's already at the level of anand, aronian, carlsen, kramnik and topalov, i again feel the need to say (and demonstrate) that such is not the case.

whether he is able to get there eventually or not, is a different matter.

do you see what i'm saying, gus inn? :o)

Feb-01-10  timhortons: never mind frogbert, hes scared of naka, if naka landed in top 10 right away this guy gonna convulsed in his nightmare.

Godzilla breath fire frog.

Feb-01-10
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  ketchuplover: Herr Nakamura may best be served by moving out of the USA. To say perhaps Iceland! Just a thought.
Feb-01-10  timhortons: first frogbert did not expect this outcome, he tried to bash nakamura in the early phase of corus but he got bashed in return by even those who dont join the usual chat fight here in naka forum.well frog, its not wise to attack naka when he is at the height of his popularity, if you guys noticed mid corus as nakas result got better frogbert go slow on naka, sometimes he kibitz as if he is a naka fan, well , who knows, paul the aggressor of christ did become his follower later. well see more of frogs stunt here in naka page , this is exciting. the envy factor is.

naka with flying colors past the test in the elite field.

<despite high on hype>

Feb-01-10  Bobby Fiske: @timhortons:
It seems you have become frog-o-phobic. :)
There is something irrational the way you go ranting about frogbert so often. It kind of spoils this Nakamura page. Just a friendly advice!
Feb-01-10  boz: <frogbert> is careful and realistic. He is not given to wild speculation. You are unlikely to hear bold predictions from him about any player, and his "believe it when I see it" conservatism can often be interpreted as negativity if you feel you have already *seen* it even if only in visions.

The man's a scientist not an oracle.

I will admit that at times he has seemed deliberately "unimpressed" with Nakamura, possibly in reaction to some hysterical comments here. I don't recall there ever being any doubt about Nakamura's talent.

Beginning with Corus, I sense a new respect for Naka from <frogbert> and his friends over at the Carlsen page.

That said, some of those friends would have loved to have seen Nakamura get humiliated at Corus. They hoped he'd be embarrassed by the elite and that disillusion would come crashing down on his admirers.

In that they will have to be disappointed; Nakamura has shown that he belongs. Now we will see whether he can build on this experience.

Feb-01-10  timhortons: <hysterical comments>

what hysterical comments you seen here boz?

check out the history page and post the links of those comments?

Feb-01-10  timhortons: <Beginning with Corus, I sense a new respect for Naka from <frogbert> and his friends over at the Carlsen page.>

what can they do? they cannot bashed naka at the hieght of his popularity, had naka performed poorly things are different here..

just yesterday eeek is waiting for naka to lost against tiviakov, the poor eeek dont even concede he lost on the beat he revive.

Feb-01-10  Bobby Fiske: <timhortons - im already kibitzing here when you guys are trashing on naka, i hope you share space with me now that all of us have interest in his career.> There you go again, shooting without aiming. (I have only spoken about Nakamura in positive ways. In fact I am found of all the super GM's who provide us with all the beautiful games).

My point is that your private vendetta against frogbert is spoiling this page. When repeating and repeating the same message, it decreases others joy of being here. This page is not your private site where you can behave just as you like.

Of course I could push the "block" button, but at least I wanted to discuss it with you first.

Feb-01-10  timhortons: <Bobby Fiske> Ok bobby, ill try to target my kibitz with the person involve, boz i dont mean to be disrespectfull with you.
Feb-01-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  alexmagnus: <tim> No, but violating the posting guideline #3.
Feb-01-10  sani: for the love of god - why do people want to discuss with a person like timhortons?

timhortons -1 everywhere

this forum stinks because of your contentless, obsessive, useless posts. show me some constructive information that give me pleasure and enlightenment for crying out loud.

Feb-01-10  timhortons: alex i better not entertain you before i break more laws, lol.

have a good day to you.

Feb-01-10  timhortons: wow!

the gang of hyenas is striking full.

Feb-01-10  Bobby Fiske: <timhortons: <Bobby Fiske> Ok bobby, ill try to target my kibitz with the person involve>

5 minutes later:
<timhortons: wow! the gang of hyenas is striking full.>

;)

Feb-01-10  boz: Come on <Tim>, entusiasm, hysteria even, it's all part of the game as far as I'm concerned. I'm glad people get passionate. I'm not picking on any of those kibiters you mentioned including you because I enjoy reading the comments even the combative ones.

<frogbert> may deny it, but I think sometimes all the aggressive talk over here has a pull for him. He seems to thrive on adversity. After all he keeps coming back.

And <Tim> I appreciate your demonic imagination. That time you described "Gelfand's parachute burning as he go down..." when he lost to Nakamura should be in the cg.com hall of fame!

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