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Vladimir Kramnik
Kramnik 
Photograph copyright © 2007 Milan Kovacs (www.milankovacs.com)  

Number of games in database: 3,250
Years covered: 1984 to 2024
Last FIDE rating: 2753 (2700 rapid, 2670 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2817
Overall record: +545 -170 =957 (61.2%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 1578 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 English (154) 
    A15 A14 A17 A13 A16
 Sicilian (147) 
    B90 B30 B33 B52 B92
 Queen's Pawn Game (109) 
    D02 A46 E10 D05 D00
 King's Indian (106) 
    E97 E94 E92 E91 E86
 Reti System (101) 
    A04 A06 A05
 Slav (99) 
    D17 D15 D11 D18 D12
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (270) 
    B33 B30 B31 B62 B65
 Ruy Lopez (182) 
    C67 C65 C84 C78 C95
 Queen's Gambit Declined (123) 
    D37 D35 D38 D39 D31
 Semi-Slav (110) 
    D45 D43 D47 D44 D48
 Petrov (102) 
    C42 C43
 Nimzo Indian (81) 
    E32 E21 E54 E34 E46
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NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kramnik vs Leko, 2004 1-0
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Gelfand vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 1-0
   Ivanchuk vs Kramnik, 1996 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 2000 1-0
   Leko vs Kramnik, 2004 0-1
   Kramnik vs Anand, 2001 1-0
   Topalov vs Kramnik, 1995 0-1
   Kramnik vs Morozevich, 2007 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   FIDE World Championship Knockout Tournament (1999)
   Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000)
   Kramnik - Leko Classical World Championship Match (2004)
   Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006)
   World Championship Tournament (2007)
   Anand - Kramnik World Championship Match (2008)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Belgrade Investbank (1995)
   New York PCA/Intel-GP (1994)
   Hoogovens Group A (1998)
   Dortmund Sparkassen (2004)
   16th Amber Tournament (Blindfold) (2007)
   Amber Blindfold (2003)
   Dortmund Open-A (1992)
   World Cup (2013)
   Tata Steel Masters (2018)
   Qatar Masters (2014)
   Sao Paulo Latin American Cup Open (1991)
   World Youth U26 Team Championship (1991)
   Legends of Chess (2020)
   Manila Olympiad (1992)
   Biel Interzonal (1993)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
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   Kramnik - My Life and Games by pacercina
   Kramnik - My Life and Games by jakaiden
   Kramnik - My Life and Games by Okavango
   Vladi Kramn'd Fredthebear Full of White Russian by fredthebear
   Match Kramnik! by amadeus
   Vladi Others Earthly by fredthebear
   My Life and Games (Kramnik/Damsky) by Qindarka
   Kramnik on a King Hunt & vs the World Champions by visayanbraindoctor
   0ZeR0's collected games volume 75 by 0ZeR0
   Vladimir, the Conqueror by Gottschalk
   Vladimir Kramnik's Best Games by KingG

RECENT GAMES:
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   Kramnik vs Carlsen (Jan-02-24) 0-1, blitz
   Svidler vs Kramnik (Sep-26-23) 1-0, rapid

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VLADIMIR KRAMNIK
(born Jun-25-1975, 50 years old) Russia
PRONUNCIATION:
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Former World Champion - and former top ranked player in the world - Vladimir Borisovich Kramnik was born in Tuapse, on the shores of the Black Sea, on June 25, 1975. As a child, Vladimir Kramnik studied in the chess school established by Mikhail Botvinnik. In 2000, he won the Classical World Championship from Garry Kasparov, then won the unified title when he defeated Veselin Topalov in 2006 to become the 14th undisputed World Champion. Kramnik relinquished the title in 2007 to his successor, the 15th undisputed (and now former) World Champion, Viswanathan Anand.

Championships

<Age> In 1991, Kramnik won the World Under 18 Championship in Guarapuava, Brazil.

<National> Kramnik finished equal first in the 1990 RSFSR (Russian) Championship in Kuibyshev, Russia, but placed second on tiebreak, behind Andrei Kharlov. He came third ex aequo in the Russian Championship Superfinal (2013) after a last round battle with Ian Nepomniachtchi for a share of first and the possibility of the title for the first time. However, he lost the game and scored 5.5/9.

<World> Kramnik's early attempts at storming the citadel of the World Championship met with mixed results. In 1994, he lost a Candidates quarter finals match for the PCA championship to Gata Kamsky by 1½-4½, and a few months later he lost a Candidates semi-finals match for the FIDE championship to Boris Gelfand by 3½-4½. In 1998, Kramnik was defeated by Alexey Shirov by 3½-5½ in the Candidates match held in Cazorla to determine the right to play Garry Kasparov for the Classical World Chess Championship. In 1999, Kramnik lost in the quarterfinals of the FIDE knockout championship in Las Vegas to Michael Adams by 2-4, including the 4 game rapid play-off.

Although Shirov had defeated Kramnik for the right to challenge Kasparov, suitable sponsorship was not found for a Kasparov-Shirov match, and it never took place. In 2000, however, sponsorship became available for a Kasparov-Kramnik match instead. This meant that Kramnik was the first player since 1935 - when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger - to play a world championship match without qualifying. Kramnik reached the pinnacle by defeating long-time champion Kasparov in the Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000) in London by the score of 8½ to 6½ (+2 =13 -0) without losing a game, becoming the next Classical World Champion in the line that started from Wilhelm Steinitz. It was the first time since the Lasker - Capablanca World Championship Match (1921) that the defending champion had lost a match without winning a game and it was also the first time Kasparov had lost a World Championship match. Kasparov said of Kramnik that: <"He is the hardest player to beat in the world.">

In 2004, Kramnik successfully defended his title as Classical World Chess Champion against challenger Peter Leko at Brissago, Switzerland, by drawing the Kramnik - Leko Classical World Championship Match (2004) in the last game. Lékó was leading the 14-game match until the final game, which Kramnik won, thus forcing a 7 - 7 draw and ensuring that Kramnik remained world champion. Because of the drawn result, the prize fund of 1 million Swiss francs was split between the two players.

Kramnik refused to participate at the FIDE World Championship Tournament (2005), but indicated his willingness to play a match against the winner to unify the world championship. His next title defence in 2006, therefore, was a reunification match with the new FIDE world title holder from the 2005 tournament, Veselin Topalov. The $1 million Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006) was played in Elista, Kalmykia from September 21 to October 13 and after controversially forfeiting the fifth game, Kramnik won the rapid game playoff by 2½ -1½ after the classical games were tied 6-6, thereby becoming the first undisputed unified World Chess Champion since the 1993 split. In the following year, Kramnik lost the unified world title when he finished second to Viswanathan Anand at the Mexico City World Championship Tournament (2007). In October 2008, Kramnik exercised his entitlement to a rematch as a challenger to World Champion Anand in Bonn, Germany, but lost the Anand - Kramnik World Championship Match (2008) match by 4½ to 6½ (+1 =7 -3).

Kramnik's tournament performances in 2009 (see below) raised his rating (average of July 2009 and January 2010 ratings) sufficiently to qualify him for the World Championship Candidates (2011). In the first round he beat Teimour Radjabov by the narrowest of margins*: after tieing the classical games 2-2 (+0 =4 -0), and the rapid games 2-2 (+0 =4 -0), he won the blitz playoff by 2.5-1.5 (+2 =1 -1) to move to the semi final match against Alexander Grischuk, which he lost 1.5-0.5 (=1 -1) in the blitz tiebreaker after he drew the classical games 2-2 (+0 -0 =4) and the rapid games 2-2 (+0 -0 =4), thereby eliminating him from the contest. Participating in the World Championship Candidates (2013) on the basis of his rating, Kramnik came =1st with Magnus Carlsen on 8.5/13 after both lost their last round games. As the first tiebreaker (individual score against the other player in the tournament) left them level, the second tiebreaker (greater number of wins in the tournament) relegated Kramnik to second place due to scoring four wins to Carlsen's five.

Kramnik was seeded directly into the World Championship Candidates (2014), as he met the pre-condition that he participate in the World Cup (2013). During the Cup, he defeated Zambian IM Gillan Bwalya in the first round, compatriot GM Mikhail Kobalia in the second round, Ukrainian GM Alexander Areshchenko in the third round, veteran Ukrainian GM and twice former Candidate Vasyl Ivanchuk in the Round of 16 (round four), his third Ukrainian opponent in the shape of GM Anton Korobov in the quarter final (round five), one of the wildcards of the event, French GM Maxime Vachier-Lagrave match in the semi final (round 6) before defeating compatriot GM Dmitry Andreikin in the final by 2.5-1.5 (+1 =3). His win also guaranteed qualification in the World Cup 2015, although he would qualify by rating alone. At the Candidates in March 2014, he placed 3rd with 7/14 behind Anand and Karjakin.

He qualified by rating to play in the World Cup (2015) where he met and defeated Peruvian Deysi Estela Cori Tello and Cuban GM Lazaro Bruzon Batista in the first two rounds to advance to the third round where he lost to Dmitry Andreikin in the first set of rapid game tiebreakers, thereby bowing out of the event.

Tournaments

Kramnik won Chalkidiki 1992 with 7.5/11, and in 1993, he played in Linares, finishing fifth and defeating the then world number three, Vasyl Ivanchuk. Following some solid results in the interim which resulted in him winning the 1994 PCA Intel Grand Prix, major tournament triumphs were soon to follow, such as Dortmund 1995, Horgen 1995, Belgrade 1995, =1st in Dos Hermanas in 1996 and 1997, =1st in Tilburg 1997 (8/11). Dortmund became a favourite stop, as Kramnik has gone on to win nine more times in 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, Dortmund Sparkassen (2006), Dortmund Sparkassen (2007), Dortmund Sparkassen (2009) and Dortmund Sparkassen (2011), as either equal or clear first; in the 2011 edition of the event he won by 1.5 points despite losing in the last round. In 2000, Kramnik won his first Linares tournament, completing his set of victories in all three of chess' "triple crown" events: Corus, Linares, and Dortmund. Kramnik later captured additional Linares victories in Linares (2003) (shared) and Linares (2004) (outright). He won the Tal Memorial (2007) with 6.5/9, 1.5 ahead of Shirov. Kramnik had exceptionally good results in 2009, winning once again in Dortmund and then winning the Category 21 (average ELO = 2763) Tal Memorial (2009) in Moscow with 6/9 and a TPR of 2883. At the time, the average ELO rating of the field made it the strongest tournament in history. He also participated in the London Chess Classic (2009) in December, finishing second to Magnus Carlsen. These magnificent results qualified him for the 2011 Candidates on the basis of his boosted ratings. Kramnik began 2010 at Corus Group A (2010) in the Netherlands, during which he defeated new world number-one Carlsen with the Black pieces in their head-to-head encounter, ending Carlsen's 36-match unbeaten streak. A late loss to Anand knocked him out of first place, and Kramnik finished with 8/13, tying for second place with Shirov behind Carlsen's 8½ points. He came 2nd in the preliminary Shanghai Masters (2010) to qualify for the Grand Slam Chess Final (2010) against Carlsen and Anand, who had pre-qualified. He then won at Bilbao with +2 -0 =4 over world champion Anand, then-world number one Magnus Carlsen, and Shirov. The 2009 Tal Memorial and the Grand Slam Final at Bilbao were the most powerful tournaments (in ratings terms) ever staged. In late 2011, he easily won the 15th Unive (Crown Group) (2011) with 4.5/6 and a TPR of 2903 and finished the year with outright first at the London Chess Classic (2011) with +4 -0 =4 and a TPR of 2934, recovering ground lost following a mediocre performance in the Tal Memorial (2011) where he failed to win a game. In June 2012, he placed =4th at the category 22 Tal Memorial (2012), with 4.5/9 and in July 2012, =3rd (4th on tiebreak) at the category 19 Dortmund Sparkassen (2012) tournament. Kramnik finished 2012 with a surge, placing 2nd at the London Chess Classic (2012) behind Magnus Carlsen, scoring 6/8 (16 points in the 3-1-0 scoring system used in the event) and a TPR of 2937 to Carlsen's 2994.

His final training preparation for the Candidates tournament in March at the category 21 Zurich Chess Challenge (2013), was less than completely successful in terms of results (2.5/6), drawing five and losing one to Anand, although it seemed to contribute to his game fitness at the Candidates as he placed second by the narrowest of margins, scoring equal to Carlsen who won the event and the right to challenge Anand for the World Championship. He placed =4th with 4.5/9, a point behind the winner, in a low scoring Alekhine Memorial (2013) and then had one of his worse ever results at the Tal Memorial (2013), coming last with 3/9 (+0 -3 =6). However, he returned to form in the Dortmund Sparkassen (2013), placing outright second behind Adams, scoring 6.5/9, jointly dominating the category 19 field to the extent that no other player scored better than 50%. In November 2014, Kramnik competed at the category 20 Petrosian Memorial (2014), and was outright second behind Alexander Grischuk with 4.5/7, signalling a mild return to form after a slump that saw him exit the world's top 10 for the first time since he entered the top 10 in January 1993. There followed 2nd at the powerful Qatar Masters (2014), with 7/9, and =1st at the London Chess Classic (2014).

2015 saw Kramnik starting his competitive year by placing outright 3rd behind the winner Anand and runner-up Hikaru Nakamura, ahead of Sergey Karjakin, Levon Aronian and Fabiano Caruana respectively, in the standard section of the RR category 22 Zurich Chess Challenge (2015). He won the final section of the Zurich event, namely the Zurich Chess Challenge (Rapid) (2015), but the added points were insufficient to give him the overall lead and he finished with 3rd prize behind Nakamura and Anand respectively. A relatively poor performance at the Gashimov Memorial (2015) where he scored only 4/9 was followed by a solid performance at the Russian Premier League 2015 (see below) and a below average 3.5/7 for fourth place at the annual Dortmund Sparkassen (2015). He saw out the year with equal third, scoring 6.5/9 at the powerful Qatar Masters (2015), half a point behind the joint leaders Magnus Carlsen and the rising Chinese star Yangyi Yu. Kramnik started 2016 with equal third on 5/9 at the Norway Chess (2016) behind Carlsen and Aronian respectively after also coming third in the preliminary Norway Chess (Blitz) (2016) used to determine the draw. Several months later in July he placed =2nd (with 4/7) behind Vachier-Lagrave at Dortmund Sparkassen (2016). Kramnik's year in standard time chess finished with a reasonably efficacious equal third at the London Chess Classic (2016), a point behind the winner Wesley So.

In April 2017, Kramnik was second on tiebreak ahead of co-runners up Wesley So and Veselin Topalov at the category 21 Gashimov Memorial (2017), scoring 5/9, half a point behind the winner Shakhriyar Mamedyarov. Two months later he again placed equal second, this time at the category 22 Norway Chess (2017), scoring 5/9 alongside Hikaru Nakamura, a point behind the winner Levon Aronian.

Team Events

<Olympiads> Kramnik has won three team and and individual gold medals at the Olympiads as well as two team silvers. He played in the gold medal winning Russian teams in the Manila 1992, Moscow 1994 and Yerevan 1996 Olympiads, his first gold medal being awarded to him as an untitled 16 year old in 1992 when he scored eight wins, one draw, and no losses to record a remarkable TPR of 2958. In 1994, he came fifth on the second board with 8/11 and a 2727 TPR. In 1996, he scored a relatively meagre 4.5/9 on the second board. He did not participate in any more Olympiads until Turin Olympiad (2006) in Turin, when he again won a gold medal with overall best performance on the top board with 6.5/9 (2847 TPR). In the Dresden Olympiad (2008) in Dresden, he scored 5/9 on top board and a 2735 TPR. Kramnik played board one for the silver medal winning Russian team in the Khanty-Mansiysk Olympiad (2010) in Khanty-Mansiysk, coming fifth with a scored of 5.5/9, winning 2 and drawing 7 with a TPR of 2794. At the Istanbul Olympiad (2012) held in Istanbul, he again played top board scoring 5/9 and coming 7th on that board, leading his team to another silver medal. At the Tromso Olympiad (2014), he again played board 1 for Russia. He played board two for Russia in the Baku Olympiad (2016), scoring individual gold for his board, and team bronze with his countrymen.

<National Team Events> In 1991, 2490-rated FM Kramnik represented Russia on board 2 at the World U26 Championship played at Maringá; with a perfect score of 6/6 he helped Russia to win gold, and won individual gold for his performance. He played in the European Team Championships on one occasion, in 1992, when the then FM was rated 2590. Again representing Russia, this time on board 3, he helped his team to win gold with a 6/7 effort, and won individual gold for board 3 as well as a gold medal for the best rating performance at the event, that being a 2863 performance, ahead of Kasparov's 2809 performance that won rating silver. That same year (1992), he also played on the USSR team against the Rest of the World. He played for Russia twice in the World Team Championship, in 1993 and 2013. On the first occasion, he lead his country to a bronze medal, and on the second occasion - at the World Team Championship (2013) - to a gold medal.

<European Club Cup> Kramnik participated in the European Club Cup between 1995 and 1999 inclusive, in 2005 and again in 2015 and 2016. He started off playing board one with SV Empor Berlin in 1992 and 1993, moved on to Sberbank-Tatarstan Kazan in 1994 where he helped the club to bronze, then played board one with the powerful Agrouniverzal Zemun team in 1998 and 1999, winning team silver in 1999. Since then, he played for NAO Paris in 2005, winning team bronze and for the Siberia Novosibirsk team in the European Club Cup (2015) and European Club Cup (2016) winning team gold in 2015 as well as an individual gold for board 1.

At the Russian Team Championship (2015), Kramnik played board 1 for Siberia Novosibirsk, winning gold for that board; his effort also helped his team to win gold. He repeated his individual effort in the Russian Team Championship (2016), this time helping his team to a bronze medal in the double round robin 5-team contest.

Matches

In 2004, he won a simul against the German National Team 2½:1½.

In October 2002, Kramnik played an eight game match against Deep Fritz (Computer) in the Brains in Bahrain (2002) match, drawing 4-4 after leading 3-1. In 2006 the German organization Universal Event Promotion (UEP) staged a return match of six games between Kramnik and Deep Fritz in Bonn, which Kramnik lost, +0 -2 =4.

In April 2012, Kramnik and Levon Aronian played, as part of their preparation for the 2012 Candidates Tournament, a six-game training match in Zurich. The Kramnik - Aronian (2012) match was drawn 3-3 (+1 -1 =4). From late November to early December 2016, he played a rapid and blitz match against Yifan Hou at the Kings Tournament in Romania, winning both by significant margins, the rapid by 4.5-0.5 and the latter by 6/9 (+5 -3 =2).

Rapids

Kramnik has been an excellent and consistent performer at rapid and blindfold play. He won or shared the overall lead at Amber in 1996 (outright overall 1st), 1998 (=1st with Shirov with 15/22), 1999 Monaco (14½/22), 2001 (=1st with Topalov with 15/22), 2004 (=1st with Morozevich with 14.5/22), and 2007 (outright overall first with 15½/22). He also won the 2001 rapid play match against Lékó by 7-5, drew the 2001 rapid play Botvinnik Memorial match with Kasparov 3:3 and the 2001 rapid play match against Anand 5:5, lost the 2002 Match Advanced Chess Kramnik vs. Anand (Leon) 3½:2½, was runner up to Anand in the Cap D'Agde FRA (2003), won the 2009 Zurich Champions Rapid (2009) with 5/7 and shared 1st in the 2010 President's Cup in Baku with 5/7. In tandem with the London Classic 2014, Kramnik came =1st in the blitz event and =3rd in the rapid play open.

Kramnik came in equal 5th with 10/15 in the World Rapid Championship (2015), 1.5 points behind the winner Carlsen, and half a point behind the joint runners up Nepomniachtchi, Radjabov and Leinier Dominguez Perez. He followed up the next day with equal second alongside Vachier-Lagrave scoring 15/21, half a point behind the outright winner Alexander Grischuk at the World Blitz Championship (2015).

Ratings

Kramnik entered the top 100 in January 1992 and has remained there since that time. He rose rapidly in the rankings such that a year later in January 1993, he entered the top 10 where he has been ensconced since, apart from a few months in 2014. Yet during that time he made it to world #1 in only two rating periods.

In January 1996, Kramnik became the world top rated player. Although he had the same FIDE rating as Kasparov (2775), He became number one by having played more games during the rating period in question. He became the youngest ever to reach world number-one, breaking Kasparov's record; this record would stand for 14 years until being broken by Magnus Carlsen in January 2010.

Ironically, during his reign as world champion, Kramnik never regained the world number-one ranking, doing so only in January 2008 after he had lost the title to Viswanathan Anand. As in 1996, Kramnik had the same FIDE rating as Anand (2799) but became number-one due to more games played within the rating period. Kramnik's 12 years between world-number one rankings is the longest since the inception of the FIDE ranking system in 1971.

In July 1993 soon after his 18th birthday, he crossed 2700 for the first time and has remained in the 2700+ rating ever since. In April 2001, he became the second of only eight chess players to have reached a rating of 2800 (the first being Kasparov, followed by Anand, Topalov, Carlsen, Aronian, Caruana and Grischuk). Kramnik's highest standard rating to date is 2811 achieved in May 2013 when he was ranked #3 in the world.

Other

In 1995, Kramnik served as a second for Kasparov during the latter's successful defence of his Classical World Chess Championship against Anand, and in an ironic counter point in 2010 he served as a second for Anand during the World Champion's successful defence against Topalov.

Kramnik has a form of arthritis called ankylosing spondylitis. In January 2006, Kramnik announced that he would miss the Corus Group A (2006) to seek treatment for this condition. He returned from treatment in June 2006, playing in the 37th Chess Olympiad, winning gold by top scoring on the top board. Kramnik's performance in winning the Classical World Championship in 2000 won him the Chess Oscar for 2000, while his 2006 victory in the reunification match earned him the Chess Oscar for 2006.

On 30 December 2006 he married French journalist Marie-Laure Germon and they have a daughter, Daria, who was born 28 December 2008, and a son, Vadim, born 28 January 2013.

Sources and references Website: http://www.kramnik.com/; Biography: http://www.kramnik.com/eng/biograph...; Extended and candid interview with Kramnik by Vladislav Tkachiev in August 2011: http://whychess.org/node/1605; Live rating: http://www.2700chess.com/; * http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...; Wikipedia article: Kramnik

Last updated: 2023-11-23 11:45:25

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Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Kramnik vs Serdyukov 1-0311984BelorechenskB78 Sicilian, Dragon, Yugoslav Attack, 10.castle long
2. A Oganyan vs Kramnik 0-1311984BelorechenskB89 Sicilian
3. Remezov vs Kramnik  0-1521985KrasnodarB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
4. Zaitsev vs Kramnik 0-1491986Team TournamentB83 Sicilian
5. Kramnik vs Zhukov 1-0381986BelorechenskB43 Sicilian, Kan, 5.Nc3
6. Shilov vs Kramnik 0-1371987USSR Boys' ChampionshipB33 Sicilian
7. Kramnik vs A Chjumachenko 1-0321987GelendzhikB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
8. Kramnik vs Mayorov 1-0341987GelendzhikC12 French, McCutcheon
9. Kramnik vs Otsarev 1-0181987Baku TrainingB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
10. I Odesskij vs Kramnik 0-1251987URS-chT U14A52 Budapest Gambit
11. Yakubovsky vs Kramnik  0-1511987URS-chT U14B23 Sicilian, Closed
12. Yakovich vs Kramnik 1-0421988URSB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
13. Kramnik vs Danislian ½-½601988URS-chT U18B15 Caro-Kann
14. M Golubev vs Kramnik 0-1381988URS-chT U18B33 Sicilian
15. M Sorokin vs Kramnik ½-½521989Chigorin Memorial-BA81 Dutch
16. A V Filipenko vs Kramnik 0-1401989Chigorin Memorial-BB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening
17. J Ivanov vs Kramnik ½-½121989Chigorin Memorial-BA85 Dutch, with c4 & Nc3
18. G Kallai vs Kramnik ½-½221989Chigorin Memorial-BA81 Dutch
19. Khenkin vs Kramnik ½-½171989Chigorin Memorial-BD39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
20. Kramnik vs A Grosar ½-½471989Chigorin Memorial-BB58 Sicilian
21. Kramnik vs A Panchenko ½-½601989Chigorin Memorial-BB58 Sicilian
22. Kramnik vs B Podlesnik 1-0371989Chigorin Memorial-BB33 Sicilian
23. Kramnik vs R Shcherbakov ½-½351989Chigorin Memorial-BB58 Sicilian
24. Kramnik vs G Tunik 0-1381989Chigorin Memorial-BB46 Sicilian, Taimanov Variation
25. Kramnik vs Yakovich ½-½141989Chigorin Memorial-BB33 Sicilian
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Nov-01-08  badest: <I hope it will never happen either.> Why on earth would Topa play #6? It just doesn't make sense...
Nov-01-08  Pawnsgambit: I am looking for Topalov-Kamsky match?? Any news yet??
Nov-02-08  Pulse: <badest> Yes, I'm wondering why Topalov decided to play some fool two years ago who was clearly not in his class. It didn't make any sense for him, so it was an easy match. Wait...
Nov-02-08  visayanbraindoctor: <Pawnsgambit: Kramnik's next chance is 2012 if he qualifies..>

The next Title shot open for Kramnik and other players is either in 2010 or 2011, after the Anand vs winner of Topalov vs Kamsky in 2009.

The World Cup format is practically an embarrassing lottery! In the 2007 World Cup, Kamsky had to beat Adly, Avrukh, Georgiev, Svidler (in rapid tie-breaks), Ponomariov, and Carlsen in very chancy two rounder knock-outs, in order to get to the finals where he beat Shirov in a mini-match of merely 4 games. Good for Kamsky, but the fact is that he could have lost to any one of these players by pure chance. If Svidler for example got lucky in the rapid tie-breaks against Kamsky, it would have been him (or Ponomariov, Carlsen, or Shirov) who would be set to play Topalov in order to determine Anand's Challenger. The World Cup format tends to produce random winners.

As for the Grand Prix, how could its eventual winner be said to be stronger than Kramnik, Topalov, Morozevich, and Shirov, when they all have effectively boycotted it for valid reasons?

FIDE can still save the day by allowing more players from the Grand Prix and the World Cup to qualify into a reconstituted Candidates matches series. For example, pick the top 8 players from the World Cup, the top 6 players from the Grand Prix, and 2 seeded players (by virtue of FIDE Elo ratings or remarkable recent performance). That's 16 players. These can then play in a Candidates series of matches like in the good old days when the credibility and strength of an eventual Challenger could not be questioned. I would even be happy with a 16 player Candidates round robin tournament. Or a mixture of both - a preliminary Candidates Tournament with the top 4 playing in a subsequent series of matches. (Pure matches are best though.)

Here are examples of 15 to 16 player Candidates pools from the past (source - Wikipedia):

1951–54 WC cycle: 1953 Zürich Candidates Tournament of 15 players, double round robin

1985–87 WC cycle: 1985 Montpellier Candidates Tournament of 16 players; top 4 (Yusupov, Vaganian, Sokolov, Timman) consequently played in a Candidates series of matches

1988–90 WC cycle: 15 players, Candidates matches, (Karpov seeded into second round)

1991-93 WC cycle: 15 players, Candidates matches, (Karpov seeded into second round)

2007 WC cycle: 2007 Elista Candidates matches of 16 players, two rounds of matches, 4 (Aronian, Gelfand, Grischuk, Leko) qualifed for the World Championship tournament

If FIDE could hold Candidates matches involving 16 players as recently as 2007 (followed by a double round-robin of 8 players in the subsequent WC Tournament), why can't it organize another in 2009 or 2010?

Now if FIDE does hold Candidates matches in 2009 or 2010, and certain players refuse to participate because they want more money, then that's their problem. Candidates events are held primarily to choose a Challenger, not to award huge sums of money.

Nov-02-08  danielpi: <slo>< ok <danielpi> i'll leave you to humiliate yourself with claims of "analysis from opening to checkmate" lol>

You are quite possibly the most ridiculously stupid person that I've ever encountered. I wrote:

<Kramnik inherited this attitude of opening preparation from Kasparov/Botvinnik that the ideal is to analyze from the opening to mate.>

Now, I was clearly talking about this attitude shared by Botvinnik, Kasparov, and Kramnik -- widely acknowledged -- that thorough opening preparation nowadays often goes deep into the middlegame, and sometimes well in to the endgame.

I did NOT write that Kasparov, Kramnik, or Botvinnik had figured out a forced mate from move 1, and only an idiot of your caliber would interpret what was clearly a figurative phrase in literal terms. Do you really believe that I claimed that there was a forced mate from move 1? Really? Could that really be what I meant? Of course it isn't, but unlike a rational person, who would then conclude that I meant the phrase figuratively, you seem to have viewed it as an opportunity to post yet another obnoxious kibitz.

Think about this for a second, dingbat: when I make fun of you, I make fun of what you actually meant. Meanwhile, your attempts at making fun of me have relied (and continue to rely) upon deliberately and rather clumsily misinterpreting what I meant, which was obvious to every other rational human being on the planet. Don't you think that says something about your position?

Look, I know what you're after. When people don't respect you, you try to bluster and convince them that you're not an idiot. But see, the problem is that you ARE an idiot, and everytime you write, your ignorance and thoughtlessness becomes more evident. So let me be blunt: you and I will never be buddies; I will never respect you; I have nothing but contempt for you; you have no credibility, and you will never have any credibility with me; I don't like you, and I will never like you. Stop trying to open a dialogue with me -- it will not change my utter disrespect for you and your pitiful little existence.

The amazing thing is that I've stated this before, and you keep coming back. I mean, don't you feel even slightly embarrassed parading around in front of people that hate you? Why do you bother people that have expressed open contempt for you? Do you really crave our approval so much that you're willing to endure all insults and abuse to get it? If that's the case, I'm telling you now -- give up -- it will never happen. It's one thing to be a bit socially inept. But if you have even an iota of social skill whatsoever, haven't you the decency to shut up? Why can't you just shut up?

Nov-02-08  dexterious: <Why on earth would Topa play #6? It just doesn't make sense...>

LOL.

Nov-02-08  danielpi: <erebdraug: I'm genuinely interested in the move order you mention. What is it ?>

Hi. Move order is not that important. 1. Nf3 is not really an opening in its own right. The only opening that properly starts with 1. Nf3 in the mainline is the Reti. Everything else is a transposition. So the idea is that if you play 1. Nf3, you can either go into a d4 opening or a c4 opening, depending on what Black does, and what you prefer.

If he tries to get a KID setup, then he'll probably go ...g6, ...Bg7, ...Nf6, ...d6, ...e5. If you (as White) play d4 at some point, then you will have transposed into a KID. But if you play c4, d3 instead, then you go into a reversed Sicilian. That is, you've transposed into the lines that <usually> start 1. c4 e5. There's obviously no way for Black to force you to play d4 (in the opening), so IF you don't want to play a KID, then you can always avoid it.

1. Nf3 is a great starting move for this reason. If you feel comfortable playing Q-pawn and English setups, then you can pick and choose which you prefer. So, if you like playing the Queen's Gambit, but you don't like playing Indians, then after 1. Nf3 Nf6, you just play 2. c4, and proceed with some line from the English. If you don't like the Queen's Gambit, and you like playing Indians, then after 1. Nf3 Nf6 you play 2. d4, and you're back to a Q-pawn opening, and if 1. Nf3 d5, then you play 2. c4 and you've got a Reti.

Well, there's actually dozens of possibilities here, but the idea behind 1. Nf3 is that it is a transpositional opening. You mainly use it to get to a preferred line in either the Q-pawn or English setups.

Most of the positions that you'll get from 1. Nf3, though, are either reversed Sicilians, symmetrical English, or Catalans -- unless you deviate to avoid one of them. I'm a little leery of saying anything too definitive about 1. Nf3, though, since it all depends on how you choose to transpose. There are a lot of options.

Nov-02-08  KamikazeAttack: < badest: <I hope it will never happen either.> Why on earth would Topa play #6? It just doesn't make sense... >

Exactly. Even more reason why a match would never and should never take place.

Nov-02-08  slomarko: <Now, I was clearly talking about this attitude shared by Botvinnik, Kasparov, and Kramnik -- widely acknowledged -- that thorough opening preparation nowadays often goes deep into the middlegame, and sometimes well in to the endgame.> no danielpi you claimed that <Kramnik inherited this attitude of opening preparation from Kasparov/Botvinnik that the ideal is to analyze from the opening to mate.> the idea that any top GM needs to analyse till mate is downright comical.
Nov-02-08  Xenon Oxide: <slomarko> Dude, you don't know anything about "metaphors" or "figures of speech" do you? Well, I'll say <analyse from opening to a clear conclusion>. Is that acceptable to you?
Nov-02-08  Xenon Oxide: <danielpi> No need to get into arguments like this, sometimes you just need to not care about posts like that.
Nov-02-08  slomarko: yeah metaphors and figures of speech. yeah right.
Nov-02-08  Atking: <KamikazeAttack> on <badest: <I hope it will never happen either.> Why on earth would Topa play #6? It just doesn't make sense...>> Why on earth would you take care on badest's opinion? It just doesn't make sense... :(
Nov-02-08  badest: <Atking> He is just kidding, of course, just like I was :)

Seriously, even though Kramnik's and Topa's paths might cross in the future, the chances are not very high... Topa has to beat Kamsky and Anand, Kramnik has to qualify for a WC-match (which, right now, seems even more unlikely).

Nov-02-08  GeauxCool: I may be wrong, but I thought that with Topalov-Kamsky, FIDE was stating that the loser of the Championship becomes the guardian to the throne of the next championship, such that now Topalov is guarding Anand's throne from Kamsky.

Suppose Topalov beats Kamsky, but then loses to Anand. Then Kramnik will guard the throne for Anand.

Topalov could later qualify to play Kramnik in order to play Anand again, two years from now.

Isn't this how it works? If it's not please someone correct me. Thanks!

Nov-02-08  badest: <Suppose Topalov beats Kamsky, but then loses to Anand. Then Kramnik will guard the throne for Anand.

Topalov could later qualify to play Kramnik in order to play Anand again, two years from now.

Isn't this how it works? If it's not please someone correct me. Thanks!> Hmm ... this is a bit strange. I thought FIDE would have "real" qualifications in order to play for the WC after Anand vs Topa/Kamsky is settled. So it should be a qualification from scratch (whatever that means) for 2 of: Anand, Topa and Kamsky.(Unless Anand has a re-match clause ... but I don't think so).

Nov-02-08  bharatiy: <badest> the way its going to work is like this. 1. 2009- Anand vs Topa/Kamsky, say winner is Topa(just to please your avatar) 2. 2009- Grand Prix completed - winner is say Carlsen 3. 2009 - world cup - say winner is Kamsky
4. 2010 match between Carlsen vs kamsky, say winner is Kamsky 5.2011 match between Topa and kamsky.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Nov-02-08  bharatiy: here is a link which describes it. I think I am correct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_...
Nov-02-08  erebdraug: <danielpi> Thanks for the thorough explanation about 1.Nf3 !

And, by the way, don't feed the troll. That's what trolls want anyway. Just ignore him.

You are among the most interesting kibitzers here, and answering trolls isn't worth anyone's time. Everyone understands the situation, so don't bother with it anymore :-)

Nov-02-08  shahjinan: < Augalv: <In the second half, Kramnik began playing for wins in every game IMO. It shows. He played more actively, and Anand obtained positions where he had to defend well or lose. The second half of the match saw Kramnik dictating the 'pace' of the games. If Anand had played any weaker, Kramnik would have caught up with him.> The Kramnik of the second half of the match is the Kramnik I want to see from now on.>

Well Game 11 of Second half was ended in the situation where Kramnik had to fight for draw....He simply offered draw after knowing the situation...if a point would have need to win the match, Anand may have gone for long:)..and may have destroyed illusion that second half Kramnik was more powerful than first half...

in reality, Currently Kramnik need to work on his own skills.:)

Nov-02-08  Vishy but not Anand: It will be very difficult for Kramnik to be a challenger again if he passes through qualifying tournaments because everybody knows that he is lousy in the tournament format, the best he can do is just second if draw is counted as 1/2 else if win is counted as 3 and draw as 1, then he will surely go to the bottom of the list.

To be a challenger again, Anand should take Kramnik as his personal challenger like what Kasparov did in 2000 even Kramnik is not the official challenger, but I dont think Anand will do that.

Anyway, Kramnik made Kaspy retired in chess by avoiding him in rematch like what Alekhine did to Capablanca despite that it was quite obvious that the no. 1 contender is Capa and Kaspy was rated no.1 until his retirement.

Nov-02-08  Rolfo: bharatiy, I also understand the regulations like your clearification (though I would have picked a couple of example winners differently :))

danielpi, with your skills and brain, be aware of your wording, no need to go that far

Nov-02-08  badest: <bharatiy: <badest> the way its going to work is like this. 1. 2009- Anand vs Topa/Kamsky, say winner is Topa(just to please your avatar) 2. 2009- Grand Prix completed - winner is say Carlsen 3. 2009 - world cup - say winner is Kamsky 4. 2010 match between Carlsen vs kamsky, say winner is Kamsky 5.2011 match between Topa and kamsky. Correct me if I am wrong.> Thanks for the pointer, and for the explanation. Very kind of you to pick Topa as an example ... at this point I would be very happy IF there is a Topa - Kamsky match, and of course even happier if there is an Anand - Topa match. I think (hope) it would be fun/attractive to watch ... unless, Topa, to honor Kramnik only plays the Petrov with black ;)
Nov-02-08  KamikazeAttack: <Topalov could later qualify to play Kramnik in order to ...>

Hopefully, the world would come to an end before this calamity happens.

Nov-02-08  Ulhumbrus: <Vishy but not Anand: ...Anyway, Kramnik made Kaspy retired in chess by avoiding him in rematch like what Alekhine did to Capablanca despite that it was quite obvious that the no. 1 contender is Capa and Kaspy was rated no.1 until his retirement.> There is no evidence that Kramnik avoided a match with Kasparov.

Not only did Kasparov not insist on a right to a return match in the event of loss on the London 2000 match, but the rules under which Kasparov played in 2000 precluded the privilege of a return match if Kasparov lost.

In 2004 Kasparov did not take part in the elimination contest which culminated in the match between Kramnik and Leko. To the best of my knowledge, Kasparov did not claim the right or privilege to be exempt from any part of the elimination contest.

So how could Kramnik be said to have avoided a match with Kasparov?

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