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Apr-21-14
 | | Joshka: Yea Schaap should have at least apologized for his father's comments in an article he wrote about Bobby. Bobby had to ask him at least 3 or 4 times if he had read the article, Schaap said no. Imagine having your dad befriending Fischer for years then write a nasty article on him, you get a chance to interview the living legend and you do not even do the minimum amount of homework and be familiar with the article your dad wrote blasting Bobby. He could also have said, I haven't had the chance to read it, or something like that, heck but no, he acts like a prosecutor grilling Bobby on the stand. He never learned manners in not kicking someone when they are down, Schaap should be ashamed of himself the way he conducted himself in the press conference, IMHO. |
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Apr-21-14 | | Jim Bartle: Oh BS. A writer writes what he thinks, and he doesn't have to apologize, nor does his son. Reporters don't serve the people they're covering. Or they shouldn't. Jeremy Schaap did a good job interviewing another Bobby (Knight) a few years ago .(no easier than Fischer) despite Knight's attempt to rattle him and change the subject. |
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Apr-21-14
 | | HeMateMe: <be familiar with the article your dad wrote blasting Bobby.> He wasn't "blasted." Get off your knees--Fischer isn't God, he's just a guy who played chess very well. Schaap wrote about an oddball, who jumped on and off busses like he was being tailed by the FBI, spent his days in the public library researching perceived plots against mankind by world jewery. If Bob hadn't been a great player, he would have been just another invisible kook with bad teeth, living in a one bedroom apartment. |
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Apr-21-14 | | TheFocus: <Shams> <TheFocus> <What's your problem with Jeremy Schaap?> I don't really have a problem. I just had too much to drink. I mean... my cat had too much to drink.
Let's just stick to blaming the cat. |
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Apr-21-14
 | | HeMateMe: I don't think Fischer would have liked this film, Homicide. Joe Montagna, The guy who played the dad in Searching for Bobby Fischer plays an urban cop who assists a JDL type group in breaking up a possible plot against the power broker jews of that city. <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102048...> |
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Apr-21-14
 | | HeMateMe: The above film is written by David Mamet, who has quite a resume. There is a trailer on IMDB. I thought it was pretty good, though I saw it 25 years ago. William H. Macy. |
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Apr-21-14 | | Shams: <Joshka> <Schaap should be ashamed of himself the way he conducted himself in the press conference, IMHO.> I hope we aren't talking about the same press conference. In the one that I saw, Fischer kept calling Dick Schaap a "dirty Jew" and Schaap fils was a model of self-control. |
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Apr-22-14 | | savagerules: I saw that Searching for Bobby Fischer movie sometime back out of curiosity and couldn't they have hired a child actor that had a decent voice or at least overdub the voice? I couldn't understand anything he was trying to say and I wasn't about to put on subtitles just to know what the kid was saying. All the adults seemed to be idiots in the film- all worked up about a bunch of kids playing grade school chess. |
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Apr-22-14 | | SChesshevsky: <Joshka: Yea Schaap should have at least apologized for his father's comments in an article he wrote about Bobby.> If I remember correctly the column was really pretty favorable to Fischer. Fischer focused on the ending paragraph, which ended with something sarcastic like "Oh that crazy Fischer doing his own thing like other daffy geniuses." I think it might be an only legitimately crazy Fischer, who believed that most everybody was against him, that would've thought the article a vicious attack. |
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Apr-22-14
 | | Joshka: <Shams> I believe we are talking about the same one. Schaap's father wrote an article saying that Bobby didn't have a sane bone in his body, and Bobby took offense to that especially since Dick Schaap acted as a friend to Bobby for years. Believe you me, if we are friends, and then you write an article on me throwing me under the bus, you don't expect me to be livid?? So Dick's son has a chance to interview Bobby in Iceland, and he does not even read the article his father wrote about Bobby. If you're any kind of decent person and claim to be a professional journalist, you would have done your homework. Jeremy acted like the snot that he is. |
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Apr-22-14
 | | Joshka: <SChesshevsky> Well maybe someone can find and post the article. In the end, it really doesn't matter if you or I, or others think the article was favorable or not, FISCHER DIDN'T, and then his son Jeremy thought he'd do a hachet job on Bobby at the press conference and not have Fischer react? That was his sole purpose, to get a rise out of Bobby, push his buttons. Bobby turned the tables on him, and Schaap was so upset he had to walk away!! It was reporters like Schaap that really irked the heck out of Bobby all thru his career. Perception is everything. |
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Apr-22-14 | | Conrad93: Fischer hated everyone. I would take his comments with a grain of salt. Then again hate is a great catalyst for success in chess... |
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Apr-22-14 | | Conrad93: Fischer is mostly famous for the 1972 WC match.
He retired at his best.
The Fischer of the 70's would have been awesome to see... His 60's games are good, but the Fischer after the match with Spassky is a completely different beast. |
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Apr-22-14
 | | HeMateMe: Fischer's post '72 friends are all butt kissers. If you had one negative thing to say about him, you were immediately cut off, out of the circle, no more communication. No flexibility at all, no regard for anyone else's feelings or situation. Paranoid hatred of Jewish people, the same ethnic group that helped him become a great player and probably helped him financially, when he was very young and developing, in NYC. In real life, where do you see such people? Working as third shift security guards? Dishwasher? homeless shelter? In Fischer's case, in Fischer's case, living like a neo Nazi recluse in Pasadena. Everyone nice to him got turned away, unless they treated him like a spoiled infant. |
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Apr-22-14
 | | keypusher: <Joshka: <SChesshevsky> Well maybe someone can find and post the article. In the end, it really doesn't matter if you or I, or others think the article was favorable or not, FISCHER DIDN'T, and then his son Jeremy thought he'd do a hachet job on Bobby at the press conference and not have Fischer react? > Typical dirty Jew. What was the nature of this hatchet job? Here is the article. Judge for yourselves.
http://jimwestonchess.blogspot.com/... |
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Apr-22-14 | | RedShield: < Fischer's post '72 friends are all butt kissers. If you had one negative thing to say about him, you were immediately cut off, out of the circle, no more communication.> Unless you were once part of Fischer's coterie, with what authority do you speak? My understanding is that the great sin was publicly speaking about one's contact with Fischer. That's not quite the same as him being wholly intolerant of any dissent within his private relationships. I imagine he rather liked a good barney. |
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Apr-22-14
 | | HeMateMe: <I imagine he rather liked a good barney.> I imagine he would not take a phone call from you or answer any of your letters. If you had money for him, or put a roof over his head, some contact was allowed. When he had used you up, you were cast aside. What a guy. |
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Apr-22-14
 | | Sally Simpson: Thanks for link keypusher,
" He [Fischer] possesses two classic virtues: He is never dull, and he does not have a sane bone in his body." Brilliant, that sounds likea lot of chess players I know. |
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Apr-22-14 | | Conrad93: The only remotely insulting thing in the whole article: ": will continue to play this game, to pursue the former world chess champion, because I genuinely like Bobby Fischer. He possesses two classic virtues: He is never dull, and he does not have a sane bone in his body. I'll let you know when I find him. Don't hold your breath." Dich Schaap. |
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Apr-22-14 | | Conrad93: Basically Bobby got mad at Dick because Dick didn't hold back the truth. |
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Apr-22-14 | | RedShield: <I imagine he would not take a phone call from you or answer any of your letters.> I have the same attitude toward unsolicited salespeople. < If you had money for him, or put a roof over his head, some contact was allowed.> I have the same attitude toward my employers.
<When he had used you up, you were cast aside. What a guy.> What use did you have for him besides the fact he used to be good at chess? Go out and adopt a homeless person if you're so full of human goodness. |
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Apr-22-14
 | | HeMateMe: The people calling him weren't' salesmen. They were people he knew. He was an unlikeable person, extremely immature. People who helped him over the years were ignored later on, cut out of his life, and sometimes bad mouthed via the press. The only reason he didn't die in a back alley or a homeless shelter is because people remembered the great art he produced, and they felt sorry for him. |
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Apr-22-14 | | RedShield: Why would people be so interested in calling such an unlikeable and immature person? <The only reason he didn't die in a back alley or a homeless shelter is because people remembered the great art he produced, and they felt sorry for him.> And the fact he he died with $3 million in the bank. |
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Apr-22-14 | | diceman: <HeMateMe:
He was an unlikeable person, extremely immature.>Not everyone can be a <HeMateMe.> |
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Apr-22-14 | | Everyone: You said it! |
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