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Dec-24-01
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Jan-06-02
| | Sneaky: <Bobby Fischer had an overwhelming desire to win. One of his teachers remarked about his abnormal competitive urge.
<No matter what he played, whether it was baseball in the yard or tennis, he had to come out ahead of everybody. If he had been born next to a swimming pool he would have been a swimming champion. It just turned out to be chess.> (Schonberg 261)> From http://www.howtoadvice.com/Chess/Bo... |
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Jan-06-02
| | Sneaky: Other great Fischer sites:
http://www.bobbyfischer.com/
http://www.bobbyfischer.net/ |
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| Apr-22-02 | | emmanuel b. pante: dear kibitzer's corner,
bobby fischer was like the beatles in the world of music, michael jordan in nba history and princess diana in british monarchy.he such a great dominant player of all time in chess history.was he a victim of a cold war? i wish he played again. yours,
emmanuel |
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| Apr-22-02 | | refutor: the beatles, michael jordon and princess diana were raving lunatics? i don't think any sane person would want to be mentioned in the same sentence as fischer, unless it was "...wasn't as crazy as fischer" |
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Jul-14-02
| | Sneaky: "Women are weakies, I can give any woman in the world knight odds and beat them."
-- Bobby Fischer
[ Being friends with the Polgar family, I'm certain he was forced to eat those words. ] |
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Jul-14-02
| | Sneaky: refutor, maybe it takes a touch of insanity to be as great as Fischer. Americans love a winner, and most of all, they love an American winner. He was the Muhammad Ali of chess, full of bravado, with the moves to back it up. Fischer was a slap in the face to the Soviet grip on world chess during the height of the cold war, and the US will always remember him for that. |
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Aug-05-02
| | Sneaky: Here's something funny. A band from Australia called "Lazy Susan" that has a hit song "Bobby Fischer" You can get the mp3 here.
http://artists3.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands... |
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| Oct-17-02 | | OttawaChessFan: By saying "Bobby Fischer is the greatest chess player of all time" are you are really saying is "I am a mindless idiot that believes American chess propaganda and I have never really looked at the games of anyone else" What makes someone the greatest player of all time? Capablanca played a 100 game simul and drew one..Fisher, I dont even think he scored 50%, how can you compare some flash in the pan that hates his own country to the likes of Capablanca, Alekine, Keres, Kasparov, Karpov ect ect..... His 92 struggle with Spassky (who was ranked around 100th in the world) was by no means an easy victory, I mean Sneaky, if he was the greatest player of all time he should of wiped him clean off the chessboard right? I think Bobby Fischers ultimate goal in life is to die somewhere completely insane like his idol Paul Morphy... Thanks |
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| Oct-17-02 | | pferd: Fischer was a great one. His 72% win-loss record speaks for itself. His feat of 12 straight wins against Larsen and Taimanov will never be equalled. But ... the "greatest of all time"?
His record came primarily from weak (i.e. American) competition. Look at Botwinnik slugging it out toe to toe against Keres, Bronstein, Smyslov, Tal and Petrosian. There's my candidate for "greatest ever". |
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| Oct-17-02 | | bishop: ottawaChessfan, Fischer a "flash in the pan", you must be kidding. Name another player who won 19! games in a row vs Grandmasters. Euwe who played Capa, Alekhine, Lasker, said Fischer was best player ever. What do you mean by "hate his own country" and what does that have to do with his chess skill? |
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Oct-17-02
| | Sneaky: Re: The match with Spassky in 1992. This was a very unique event in chess history. I know of no other occasion where somebody who had not played world-class chess in TWENTY YEARS suddenly reappears to play somebody still active in the international chess scene? It goes without saying that his chess would not be as strong then as in 1972, and I have no doubts that had he played a Karpov or a Kasparov in 1992 it would have been a one-sided fight. But that's not the point! The fact that he was able to beat a world-class player (ranked 50th, I believe, not 100) was itself an incredible achievement. |
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| Oct-17-02 | | drukenknight: Euwe, was working w/ FIDE at the time he said that and they had to do everything they could in their power to get Fischer to play for the championship. That is well known. EUwe was respected by everyone an honest man yes, but there is no doubt they had to bend over backwards to please Fischer. It was said that in 1975 Fischer had made 400+ demands on FIDE for the match with Karpov and that FIDE and Karpov had given in on every demand but one: that Karpov have to win by 1 point, or Fischer retains! My guess is that Karpov would have played the French defense and this defense gave Fischer the most problems. Byrne beat him w/ this in a game where Fischer just falls apart. There is another game not in the data base w/ Kovacevic 1970 where Bobby gets his queen stuck and it is over quickly. ALso the simul games from 1964 shown here show a lot of success w/ the French. The 1972 match is strange to say the least. There are a few good games, but most of the decisive ones are real clunkers. Game 3 seems absurd, game 8 was lost on bad error. Game 5 and game 6 have never been fully explained by someone of stature. |
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Oct-18-02
| | Sneaky: pferd, <Fischer was a great one. His 72% win-loss record speaks for itself.> His actual record is better than that--keep in mind these games include some simuls, blitz games, and things that shouldn't really count into that figure. But what impresses me is his strong desire to win, every single game, Black or White. |
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| Oct-18-02 | | drukenknight: He definitely had strong desire to win. This is one of the most striking things about him. Tarrasch said you cant win by resigning and there is more to it than this, often what looks like lost game is still salvageable. We studied the his game vs W Browne last week, the Alekhine defense. There were winning chances for Browne, there was nothing fun for Bobby to do here but play on hoping to stop the pawn. What happens, Browne it looked like just got tired of trying to win the game and finally after about 70 moves he agrees to draw. Game was definitely winnable but stubborn defense produced the draw. Another thing about Fischer that is particular to him is he almost always finds a desperado move if there is one. If someone attacks his N, he attacks their N on the other side. He will almost never back up if it is at all possible to counterattack w/ a similar attack on material. The famous game vs Byrne, "the game of the century" when he was 13 or 14 features desperados. During the matches that led up to the 1972 championship Petrosian said to his fellow Russians that Fischer does not like closed positions. I dont think that at all true, he seemed to do well anyhow, he'd find a way to push a pawn up and create some counterplay. The games that seem to give him the most trouble are those w/ major pieces on the board and lots of open space. I am frightened too, since I usually get checkmated in two moves when I get one of these. Check out his games vs Geller lots of space and lots of heavy pieces. Also the K Gambit vs Spassky that one features lots of space and heavy pieces too. |
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| Oct-19-02 | | bishop: Bobby Fischer's accomplishment's include, 1. Winning U.S. Open at age 13. 2. Winning U.S. Championship at age 14. 3. Qualifying for the World Championship Candidates Tournament at age 15, earning Grandmaster title as a result. 4.Winning 1961 Interzonal by 3 and a half! points. 5. Winning 1970 Interzonal by 3 and a half! points. 6. Winning U.S. Championship 8 times (every time he participated} including an 11-0! score one year. 7.Winning 19! games in a row vs Grandmasters,(no draws in between!), including the sensational whitewashing of Taimanov and Larsen by 6-0 in candidate matches. 8. Winning a 1970 speed chess grandmaster tournament with 19-3 score, 4 and a half! points ahead of the likes of Petrosian, Tal, and Korchnoi (and rattling off the moves of all 22 games after the tournament!) 9. Winning of the World's chess championship by defeating Spassky in 1972. 10. Beating Spassky again after a 20! year layoff. There is no debating the fact that Fischer was an extraordinary genius of the highest kind. Any attack on his chess skill is akin to a fly biting an elephant. Fischer's political views are not to my taste, but I will keep my commentary strictly to chess as this is not a political forum. |
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| Oct-19-02 | | ksadler: > worst thing : excentric carater and obsessive i disagree...i think his jew-hating ravings are the worst thing about him |
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| Oct-19-02 | | drukenknight: Has anyone learned anything about chess by reading Fischer's works? |
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Oct-19-02
| | Sneaky: Of course! I think "My 60 Memorable Games" is one of the most instructive chess books of all time. |
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| Oct-19-02 | | Danilomagalhaes: Does somebody knows another good book of Fischer???? Some informations about him...
Bobby Fischer is one of the biggest chess players. Lived since a boy for the chess, that was his love. Is one of the more complete players. After have the title of world champion, stopped to participate of competitions. Fischer became one of the most effective player of all time. --- ---
Name: Robert James Fischer
Nacionality: North- American
Born in Chicago, 03/09/1943
Titles: World Champion during 3 years (72-75) Characteristic of game: Inovator, tecnic, Hard and genial. Best championiships: Absolute champion of the United States for the first time when he was 14 years old. Won the Interzonal of Palma de Mallorca in 1970 with 3,5 pts. more than the second place. Best makes: Won Taimanov (6-0), Larsen (6-0) and Petrosian (6,5-2,5) Characteristics: Excentric carater and obssessive. Private life: His private life is whole dediqued to the chess, his own love. Only returned to the championiships 20 years after the title of world champion, in a match against Spassky. His maniac carater took him to make polemic declarations. He had problems with justice... Was the chess player that more contributed for the popularizationof chess and the defense of the interests of the professional players. His book "My 60 memorable games" is one of the more enjoyed books of the chess reading. |
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| Oct-21-02 | | skakmiv: Yes, he was a great player. But why did he refuse to play against Karpov? |
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| Oct-21-02 | | drukenknight: Refusing to play chess was another characteristic of this guy, skak. He spent a better part of the 60s in isolation and refusing to play. INternationally he stopped after about 1962 came out for '65 Capa. Memorial (he played in New York city by cable) and '66 Olympiad. THen not till '68. In USA he did not appear after '64; played in the 1966 Piatagorksy cup, then I am not sure if he played another US tournament. He quit the 1967 interzonal even though he was winning and was going to quit '72 championship but somehow they got him to come back and play. THis was after game 1 defeat by Spassky. In the '71 match vs Petrosian he also took a medical time out after game 2, a loss to Petrosian. Of course lots of players took medical time outs after a loss. I dont know why. In 1967 he was about to play Geller who had been beating him consistently w/ the Sicilian, when he walked out. Karpov played the French and that would have given him trouble because it always did. |
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Oct-21-02
| | Sneaky: Druken, you're full of exaggerations and mistruths. Fischer's complete tournament and match record is here and as far as I can tell looks accurate - http://www.geocities.com/siliconval... As you can see he was active in chess every year from 1955 to 1972, with the exception of 1969 when he really did go into hiding. (Note that 1964 he was busy playing simuls.) Also, in chessgames.com I can find only 6 French Defense games in that Fischer lost against(exclusing blitzes and simuls). I guess that's not as good as say, the Center-Counter, against which he achieved 100% winning success, but I would hardly call that "trouble with the French defense." |
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| Oct-21-02 | | pferd: If Fischer had played Karpov, it would not have been the French Defense that gave Fischer problems; it would have been Karpov. |
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| Oct-22-02 | | drukenknight: Sneaky, the data base is incomplete. Fischer/Kovacevic Rovinj/Zagreb 1970 is not in the database for example. This was a French where Fischer gets the Q stuck out in the middle. One of Ivkov's 2 victories comes in the French Fischer/Ivkov Santiago II; 1959. I dont know if its in the database haven't checked yet. Robt Byrne's only victory vs Fischer came in French US champ '65/66. Benko's game in '62 is in the data base he appears to miss winning chances, check it out for yourself. |
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