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| Feb-29-08 |
| Petrosianic: Yeah, I don't think it's fixable either.
I don't know who was the "better" player in 1968, Korchnoi or Spassky. But I do think that the result of their match showed that Spassky was the better suited of the two to go one-on-one with one single super-elite opponent (which is something the rating system doesn't even try to address). Of course by their 1977 match, things between the two of them had changed drastically. I shudder to think how badly Spassky might have gotten blown out if Korchnoi hadn't gone to pieces over something trivial. |
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Mar-13-08
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| ketchuplover: Spassky said computers have killed chess. |
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| Mar-13-08 |
| unsound: Well, he said they'd killed "classic chess," anyway. A much exaggerated report, in my opinion. |
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| Mar-13-08 |
| MichAdams: In Kasparov's book Revolution in the 1970s, there's a chapter called The Opinions of 28 World Experts (one of whom apparently is GM Keene). Yuri Razuvaev bemoans the influence of computers, and concludes: <I am reading with pleasure the multi-tome My Great Predecessors - a monument to the wonderful chess of the past. Alas, such chess is no longer possible. Previously a grandmaster was about thirty years old, now he is about seventeen, and some are altogether children. Different people - a different game! One can compare it with the cinema: previously it was largely adults who went there, whereas now it is teenagers.> |
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| Mar-13-08 |
| unsound: Well, that just sounds like an ageing man's suspicion of youth, doesn't it? For one thing, most of the world's elite actually still are in their thirties--Anand, Kramnik, Topalov, Moro, Svidler, Ivanchuk, Shirov etc. might disagree with Razuvaev. And there have been child chess prodigies since long before the advent of Rybka. There are surely more interesting ways to grumble nostalgically about computers than Razuvaev's. |
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Mar-14-08
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| A.G. Argent: <unsound> <...children...prodigies> Exactly. And what about that minor player of the NINETEENTH century starting out as a wee lad named Morphy? |
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| Mar-14-08 |
| Riverbeast: I also don't agree that computers have killed chess. Chess is too rich a game to be completely 'figured out'. Even if computers eventually find the best moves in every position, humans will never be able to play like them, and therefore will have to resort to their own creativity and instinct. Look how beautifully and creatively Morozevich plays...he's a member of the 'computer generation' I do think chess was more creative in the 60s and 70s when Spassky played, because they didn't have so much knowledge so easily available...But the reports of chess being dead are vastly exaggerated. Capablanca and Fischer also said chess was 'played out' and 'dead'....Maybe they thought so, because they were the best in their times... but with all due respect to them, chess is very much alive among the rest of us mortals |
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| Mar-14-08 |
| Augalv: If -in his second game of his match against deep-blue in 1997- Kasparov had seen he could have drawn that game, the story might have been different and Spassky would probably have never said computers have killed chess. |
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Mar-14-08
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| whiteshark: Rank no. 9, rank no. 9, ...
(rest somehow fuzzy) |
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| Mar-15-08 |
| Everett: RE: Tal and Spassky, it seem to remember Kasparov said Spassky was Tal's superior until Spassky lost interest in serious chess work after he won the title, and even moreso after '73. |
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| Mar-18-08 |
| Jim Bartle: "Rank no. 9, rank no. 9, ...
(rest somehow fuzzy)"
I've listened carefully to the rest of the tape, and it says "client no. 9, client no. 9"... |
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| Mar-19-08 |
| Everett: <Jim Bartle> I didn't know you worked in that firm as well. |
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| Mar-19-08 |
| Riverbeast: He's the "King of all Pimps" |
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| Mar-20-08 |
| Udit Narayan: How many times was Spassky married and is the lady standing next to him in this photo his 2nd or 3rd wife?
http://www.chessbase.com/news/2008/... |
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| Mar-20-08 |
| MichAdams: At the last count, married thrice.
First marriage ended in 1961: 'We were like bishops of opposite colour.' Married again in 1966. And finally in 1975 to a French diplomat which occasioned his move to Paris. |
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| Mar-22-08 |
| BlackWalter: There are a couple of nice postings about Spassky on the Rook House blog this week. http://www.rookhouse.com/blog
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| Mar-22-08 |
| Voltaic: very fine postings and chess blog in general <BlackWalter>. a brief and well designed account of Spassky's chess career. |
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| Mar-26-08 |
| M.D. Wilson: <RE: Tal and Spassky, it seem to remember Kasparov said Spassky was Tal's superior until Spassky lost interest in serious chess work after he won the title, and even moreso after '73.> Especially after he lost his Candidates Match against Karpov. Spassky said Karpov was the toughest player he ever played (that's including Botvinnik, Petrosian, Korchnoi and Fischer). That's pretty amazing considering Karpov was 22 or 23 when they played their match. Spassky won the '73 USSR Championship, so his loss to Fischer didn't crush him like others claim. He really lost interest in competitive chess from the mid to late '70s, but certainly his loss to Karpov was a factor. I admire Spassky because of his professionalism and sportsmanship, as well as his universal, attractive chess style. |
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Mar-29-08
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| hrvyklly: One thing that did Spassky no favours was that Geller was forced to defect to the Karpov camp just before their Candidates match - taking Spassky's sharpest lines with him. |
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| Apr-05-08 |
| M.D. Wilson: That's a nice picture of Bobby, hrvyklly. Where did you find it? |
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May-08-08
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| Knight13: FRANCE!? WTH I wanna meet this guy. And I can.... |
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| May-13-08 |
| Augalv: After watching the interviews Spassky gave for the documentary on the Fischer-Spassky World Championship Match, all I see is a very decent, noble and humble man. |
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May-13-08
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| hrvyklly: <M.D. Wilson: That's a nice picture of Bobby, hrvyklly. Where did you find it?> Sorry for late reply MD, here's the original shot, I just greyscaled it... http://icelandreview.com/icelandrev... |
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May-13-08
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| hrvyklly: <Augalv> Agreed, I think Spassky comes across as a very decent man, a real gentleman. |
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May-14-08
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| talisman: wasn't the score of fischer-spassky 92 after game 24...12.5 to 8.5?........same as 1972!.? |
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