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Jul-30-10 | | Petrosianic: I don't know that for sure, but some people said that it was, and I'd hope that we have some assurances that what they described can't happen. I'd rather not have to wonder about it. |
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Jul-30-10 | | BobCrisp: Well, if you give the charge serious credence, I think you ought to resign or renounce your NM title with immediate effect. I appreciate that the title is a national one, but as the USCF is an affiliate of FIDE, the taint of association is undeniable. |
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Jul-30-10 | | Petrosianic: Yeah, good point. I better leave my door unlocked tonight too, since I can't prove that a burglar might try to get in. |
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Jul-30-10 | | BobCrisp: Worst. Analogy. Ever. |
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Jul-30-10 | | Petrosianic: Oh, come on. What about the one about diarhhea being like a storm raging inside you? That one's a lot worse. But all right, if, as a courtesy to the delegates or whatever, you want to take no precautions to run an honest election, okay. But I think we'll hear a lot of scurillous gossip about this one too, no matter how it goes. |
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Jul-30-10 | | Petrosianic: Here's an example of some of that gossip:
http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt...
<ChessBase is reproducing his reports with pictures. One of them shows FIDE prez Kirsan Ilyumzhinov chatting on one of those cell phones used by his voting delegates to send photos of their ballots so they could collect their bribes. Hey, it's not my story.> Which links to this Nigel Short story...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/200... <I find myself dwelling on some rather odd stories generated by the election: the senior federation official seen wandering around with large amounts of cash; the delegates who found it necessary to photograph their completed ballot papers and SMS the pictures to their colleagues before depositing their votes; and the delegates present who chose to deliver their proxies to the fiercely pro-Kirsan delegates rather than voting in person themselves. Of course, there may not have been any shenanigans. Elections, however, must not only be clean, but be seen to be clean, and it is high time to appoint an independent authority to ensure this.> Now, if you think it's good for chess to have this kind of talk floating around, then by all means, let's take no precautions. |
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Jul-30-10
 | | HeMateMe: Sounds like the voting process should be cleaned up. Ban all cell phones and blackberrys. |
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Aug-03-10
 | | HeMateMe: A bit of a campaign speech:
"..."Where does all the money go?" asks Karpov and examines the annual FIDE budget of around three million dollars, "mostly collected from the federations." According to FIDE <just 8% went to chess development.> Karpov also doubts Ilyumzhinov's claim that he has spent tens of millions in personal investments in chess. The most explosive part of the article touches on "campaign tricks", which according to Karpov include "...offering personal financial rewards to federation leaders; using FIDE money and resources on the campaign in which FIDE is officially neutral; threatening federations who might support his opponents with the loss of development funds and events; even physical threats against delegates. In fact, many of the federations that Kirsan currently claims to have the support of are simply too afraid of reprisals to make their opposition known. Several of them have expressed their support of Karpov’s candidacy confidentially and are biding their time to announce their decision in due course. This casts serious doubt on the total vote count claimed by Kirsan’s campaign." Finally Karpov says Kirsan is still falsely claiming "he was nominated by the Russian Federation, when in reality the only official nomination from Russia went to Anatoly Karpov." He reminds readers that the Karpov campaign is seeking to disqualify Kirsan and his ticket Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne. "We will comment further if and when permitted to do so," the article ominously ends." <Can you spell B-R-I-B-E?> If what Karpov is saying is true, reading between the lines, it it easy to interpret that Kirsan has been buying the loyalty of the leaders (FIDE voters) of other chess federations. |
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Aug-07-10 | | suenteus po 147: Karpov wins another four-man tourney: Game Collection: Waddinxveen 1979 |
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Aug-24-10 | | polarmis: Not sure where to post this, but I just translated an entertaining Russian article on Kalmykia and Ilyumzhinov. His "other" presidency comes in for more than a little criticism: e.g. <Ilyumzhinov is a generator of crazy ideas and we’re impatiently waiting for the arrival of someone competent who won’t communicate with aliens and who’ll look at Kalmykia not from Alpha Centauri but from here, from the Earth.> Also worth a look if you've ever wondered how vodka and Buddhism mix... http://www.chessintranslation.com/2... |
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Aug-30-10
 | | HeMateMe: "....Now however, the players and the Kremlin find themselves on opposing sides in a bitter battle for control of the global game. Karpov is standing for presidency of the world chess federation, Fide, a body that has been run for the past 15 years by Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, an eccentric Russian millionaire and regional governor who claims to have encountered aliens and to have been <reincarnated 69 times>." 69 times! Any idea on who else he has been? Leo Tolstoy? Catharine the Great? Yakoff Smirnov? I would want to come back as Jimi Hendrix, that boy could play! Or, maybe a great inventor, like Thomas Edison. Also I'd like to come back once as a hot chick, like Bar Rafeli, just to see what it's like... |
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Sep-13-10 | | Bobwhoosta: Someday soon Karpov's bio will include "In 2011, after intense court battles and several recounts of the votes, Karpov was duly elected FIDE President. In 2012, chess became the Official World Sport, and Illumzhinov went to Mars to manage Dune Racing." Well, maybe not that last part, but I can't wait until FIDE gets Karpov, and Karpov gets FIDE. |
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Sep-13-10
 | | HeMateMe: According to a recent article in the New York Times by Andy Soltis, Kirsan is way ahead in getting Federation heads to commit to him. Apparently he has lined up a lot of votes, and will win "...in a landslide" according to Soltis, the former chess player. Without the resources of Kalmyk, though, it will be interesting to see how many of these Federation heads really like Kirsan. This is assuming he was stealing money from the poor, central Asian country and buying influence in the chess world, as is widely suspected. Maybe FIDE will be 'legit' if this is Kirsan's last term. |
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Sep-13-10 | | James Bowman: <Bobwhoosta> Lol dune racing on mars. I was looking for somewhere peacful where everything you write isn't going to be cross examined, hows the water on Karpov's page. |
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Sep-14-10 | | polarmis: <HeHateMe: 69 times! Any idea on who else he has been? Leo Tolstoy? Catharine the Great? Yakoff Smirnov?> Lots more on Kirsan here: http://www.chessintranslation.com/2... e.g. <A favourite phrase, migrating from one Ilyumzhinov interview to another like a steppe nomad is on how a man has 108 lives. “I’ve been reincarnated 69 times. I also lived during the time of the Inquisition. But it’s right now that I feel myself most at home”, Ilyumzhinov said at the beginning of 2009. If his calculations are correct then he’s still got 39 lives to go, despite the fact that his political life is no doubt over. Not bad for a man who knows aliens, is it?> |
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Sep-15-10
 | | HeMateMe: Kirsan's legacy:
The central authorities only took an interest again in 1997 when it suddenly emerged that in this entity of the Russian Federation a certain “black hole” had formed, through which money was rushing away. Attempts by the Treasury to explain the fate of the <200 million roubles that had disappeared> from the Kalmyk National Bank ended with another protest by Kirsan, who threatened that his republic would break away from the Russian Federation. […] Meanwhile, according to the latest statistics (for 2009), in terms of average monthly income <the republic is in 81st place out of 81 regions, and is 80th in terms of unemployment.> In general, the businessman-dreamer didn’t work out as a “father of the people”. So they decided to give him the chance to deal with what he loves more than anything else – studying “black holes” in space. It’s better than creating them on the Earth. Good Riddance, criminal. |
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Sep-15-10 | | fab4: I hope Karpov gets in. Still looking around for info and pics regarding his recent visit to Simpsons in London. |
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Sep-15-10 | | TheFocus: Yeah, Tolya is a big fan of Bart and Homer Simpson. Didn't know the show moved to London, though. Maybe the Simpsons are on tour? A "Simpsons on Ice" show? <Focus> really needs to get out more. |
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Sep-18-10
 | | Ron: I'm not sure what to make of this:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010... |
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Sep-18-10
 | | Eric Schiller: <ron> I already proposed a plan with chess in it: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2... |
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Sep-20-10 | | Bobwhoosta: <James Bowman>
Seems fine, I like commenting here, although I'm a little distressed by the lack of comments considering the importance (imho) of this election. GO KARPOV!!!! |
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Sep-20-10
 | | HeMateMe: ChessBase claims Karpov will be crushed, 3-1, as many federation votes are already known. I can't understand what these people see in Kirsan, other than the money stolen from the tax base of his poverty stricken government; used to finance chess tournaments and pay bribes. |
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Sep-20-10 | | Maatalkko: <HeMateMe> "One Federation, One Vote" is the problem...most of the major federations in Europe and the Americas have backed Karpov, as well as Russia. If each Federation's vote was weighted according to the number of FIDE players I think things would be different. Let's take Cambodia. Cambodia is not a tiny country, but it has one FIDE registerd player: Noel Pinic. (Sorry to single him out. With all due respect though; he's a stronger player than I am. I could have also picked Jon O'Neill, who makes up an "Army of Jon" from Sierra Leone). Noel Pinic's voting strength is identical to that of the Russian Federation. How much does it cost to buy Noel Pinic's vote? Or that of the half-dozen other people somehow associated with FIDE in Cambodia? A free dinner? A chess clock? A free plane ticket and all-inclusive vacation to get him to the voting site? (THAT would be sweet. I read the Buddhists and vodka article!) Do you think Noel Pinic is actively policing himself against possible unethical behavior? Will Noel Pinic let down Noel Pinic by choosing an inefficient autocrat over a visionary reformer? Is Noel Pinic not swayed by Karpov's stirring rhetoric, written in English and Russian, which Noel Pinic may or may not be familiar with? Perhaps Noel Pinic is an avid follower of chess news and knows all the positives of the Karpov2010 campaign. Perhaps he's one of Kirsan's cronies and will take a payoff no matter what. Or maybe...he's just a dude who signed up to play a few tournaments. If Kirsan offers $500 in "Federation Support", to be used, democratically, to benefit the entire FIDE-registered population of Cambodia, who can blame Noel, or Jon, for taking it? |
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Sep-20-10 | | Maatalkko: Maybe I should rent a post office box in a nation with no federation, and become the President of the Swaziland Chess Federation? I could bargain at least a few grand for SWZCF's vote. Then again, I think Kirsan said once that there are more Federations than members of the U.N. or F.I.F.A. So this trick has probably been covered. Guess I'll have to declare Maatalkkostan independent. If Kalmykia extends its diplomatic relations, six bottles of Parliament get my vote... |
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Sep-20-10
 | | HeMateMe: < Maatalkko > I agree with you, but this is a double edged sword. The benefit of "one man, one vote" is that a GM rich country like Russia will not be able to dominate FIDE practices. So many people have a bad taste in the mouth from when Campomanes was president. Apparently, he was "USSR's boy". This situation could get even worse if Russia got a disproportionate number of votes. A better accounting of finances could prevent a Kirsan type president in the future. Someone with the authority to siphone money from a country's tax base should not be allowed to run for FIDE President. |
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