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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: The narrator also reveals that Botvinnik knew then-current dance steps (foxtrot and charleston) and his wife's name was Gaiana Ananova. |
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Feb-16-24 | | stone free or die: You mean <faxtt> don't you <beat>? Ha. It's far from perfect, but one can turn on closed captions with the <CC> button on youtube, and then use the <Settings> button to select the <CC subtitles> to turn on the <auto-translate>. You can then select <English> (or whatever) from the drop-down list. <beat> translates it far better, but you can try the above option if he isn't available (note however that the subtitle trick it isn't always available either). |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: Her teacher Agri Vaganova was a famous ballet pedagogue in St. Petersburg/Leningrad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrip... |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: <stone free or die> I just tried your subtitle/auto-translate method. Overall I think the result is a bit more detailed than my translation, but the biggest difference is the auto-translate said they got married within an hour of meeting! Botvinnik very clearly said "year," so it's nice to know humans can still outdo computers once in a while. (laughs) |
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Feb-16-24
 | | keypusher: <beatgiant> <SFOD> Thank you both (especially you, beatgiant)! I thought I could retune the subtitles, but I didn't figure out how. I read somewhere that late in her life he had to reinforce the windows in their apartment so that she wouldn't jump out. |
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Feb-16-24
 | | beatgiant: On reviewing the subtitles, I see the most important detail I missed is, it was in the final year of her studies that she learned under Vaganova. |
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Feb-16-24 | | stone free or die: <beat> I caught that bit about marrying her an hour later - talk about love at first sight! I'm amazed that google translate can do as good a job as it does - but a good translation is a work of art. (My favorite example is the modern translation of <The Little Prince> vs. Katherine Woods' classic version) |
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Oct-25-24 | | stone free or die: I'm been searching Youtube for examples of Botvinnik speaking. So far I only have this humble example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wz... (talking about "Match of the Century" - 1972) Can someone point me to a better example?
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Nov-09-24
 | | mifralu: <Botvinnik interview:
"Information Bulletin, Embassy of USSR, 14 August 1943, p. 11">https://books.google.de/books?id=Nj... |
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Nov-28-24 | | James Keziah Delaney: Premium Chessgames MemberNov-26-23 Fusilli: <perf> Yup, and Argentina was not much of a football power back then. Didn't play in the 1950 and 1954 world cups, and it was sent home with a humiliating 1-6 defeat to Czechoslovakia in 1958 They were very powerful back then, they didn't play World cups because of politics, they had Di Stefano, Sivori, Moreno, Padernera, Angelillo back then... |
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Aug-17-25 | | Nosnibor: Botvinnik gave a 25 board simultaneous in Leicester on the 19th January 1967. He won 15 games and drew 10. I was able to draw my game in 57 moves with Botvinnik playing the Reti Opening. |
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Aug-17-25
 | | MissScarlett: Are you sure of the date? If so, how so? |
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Aug-17-25
 | | Sally Simpson: Botvinnik was definitely giving simultaneous displays in the U.K. in January 1967.
He was in Glasgow on the 13th January 1967. https://www.chessscotland.com/docum... |
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Aug-17-25 | | Nosnibor: The "Leicester Mercury" newspaper gave a photograph of Botvinnik playing his opponents. I also appeared in the same photograph along with fellow Leicester players Peter Sanderson, Alan Castle, Don Gould, David Mackey, Alan Marshall, Howard Needham, William Oakfield, Wladisaw Tabakiernik and John Fuller visiting from Coventry. All of these players drew their games agaist the Russian Titan. |
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Aug-17-25 | | stone free or die: <Nosnibor: The "Leicester Mercury" newspaper gave a photograph of Botvinnik playing his opponents.> Is that photo among the many shown in <Sally>'s link? . |
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Aug-17-25
 | | MissScarlett: I added Botvinnik vs J A Fuller, 1967 from the Leicester exhibition. In his <Coventry Evening Telegraph> chess column of January 21st, Fuller proclaimed Botvinnik's forthcoming visit 'this week' to Leicester, and the following week, he gave account of the display and, in lieu of a Botvinnik loss, the score of his drawn game. Now, it's conceivable that Fuller could have penned the column of the 21st before a visit on the 19th, but it's more reassonable to suppose that the simul took place between January 23-26. |
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Aug-18-25 | | Nosnibor: Sally`s link does not include the photograph of the Leicester exhibition. I was present at the Leicester display and was suprised at how short Botvinnik`s stature was. Of course two days later Fuller reported it in the Coventry paper. Missy please accept you are wrong in your conclusions. I hold the solid proof! |
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Aug-18-25
 | | MissScarlett: I don't accept it. |
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Aug-18-25
 | | MissScarlett: From the column of Baruch Harold Wood in the <Illustrated London News> of January 28th 1967, p.38: <A letter delivered to me on December 10 made quite a difference to my subsequent life. In it, Mihail Botvinnik asked if I could organise a few simultaneous displays for him after the tournament at Hastings. I publicised his request and invitations poured in from clubs all over the country. Within a week, I had collected nearly 30. He had originally proposed to stay on for ten days or so. I cabled asking him if he could stay until the end of January. Finally, of 47 clubs who wanted him, I was able to satisfy a meagre 16. The job of turning down the heartrending appeals from the others was one of the saddest I have ever had to tackle. At the moment of writing, he has taken on a total of 205 opponents in Bournemouth, Liverpool, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Sunderland, Glasgow, Bellshill, Middlesbrough and London. Many of his opponents have been of British Championship standard; several have represented Britain (or Scotland) in international encounters. Of the 205 games, he has won 170, drawn 29 and lost only 6; an overall percentage of precisely 90 per cent. Such a score is, of course, no surprise to anybody familiar with his record. [...]
In simultaneous play he does not "blitz" opponents like Tal or Petroshan. He plays each, to begin with, as if he were facing a master. He likes to take on exactly 25. He then adopts a cycle of five different opening moves, repeated five times. Thus on boards A, B, C, D, E his openings will be different but on board F his opening will be the same as on A. There are certain subtle advantages in this method. I must try it out myself. I have feeling, however, that I still might not get Botvinnik’s results.> Based on Wood's information, it's possible that the Leicester simul could occur on January 19th, but we need more data points. |
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Aug-18-25 | | stone free or die: Thanks <Nosnibor> (I'll now step off to the side!). |
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Aug-18-25
 | | MissScarlett: (Leicester) Illustrated Chronicle, Friday, January 27th, 1967, p.24: <A combined team of 25 Leicestershire and E.E.C. Quarry Chess Club members forced 10 draws against Russian chess genius Dr. Mikhail Botvinnik in a simultaneous display in Leicester on Thursday. Dr. Botvinnik, world champion from 1948 to 1963 with two intervals, and winner of the recent Hastings Chess Tournament, said his opposition in Leicester was the strongest he has met on his current tour of Britain. So far he has won 89 per cent of his games on the tour.> If the <Chronicle> was a daily paper, it would favour January 26th as being the date, but it's a weekly, which might be thought to tip the balance toward the 19th. |
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Aug-18-25 | | Nosnibor: The report in the Leicester Mercury of 20th January which I hold states:- "A combined team of of 25 Leicestershire and E.C.C. Quarry Chess Club members forced 10 draws against Russian -born chess genius Dr. Mikhail Botvinnik in a simultaneous display in Leicester last night. Dr.Botvinnik world champion from 1948 to63,with two intervals, and winner of the recent Hastings Chess Tournament,said after the 25-board battle: "This is the strongest opposition I have met on the current tour." During his tour Dr. Botvinnik, who will be going back to Russia at the end of the month has won 89% of his games. |
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Aug-18-25 | | Nosnibor: Missy I should point out that the " Leicester Chronicle" always came out a week later than the "Leicester Mercury". The Chronicle was only a weekly paper and that is what you are basing your arguement on. |
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Aug-18-25
 | | MissScarlett: Not happy, but I'll reluctantly accept it. |
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Aug-18-25 | | stone free or die: I suspect <Missy> has some Missourian blood in him/er. |
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