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|Aug-17-12|| ||waustad: Certainly the most notable player born today.|
|Aug-17-12|| ||brankat: R.I.P. Mikhail Moiseyevich.|
|Aug-18-12|| ||Everett: <micartouse: If I could channel the ghost of any world champion to play moves 9 through 13 for me, I would choose Botvinnik and flourish. He was the king of those moves.>|
This is mainly because Botvinnik was a researcher, planner and strategist by nature. He didnt venture opening systems at random.
An aside, he said the transition from opening to middlegame was a special strength of Bronstein's. Bronstein's skill in this, however, showed best in the years '48-'58, and came from a different way of addressing the game, namely intense improvisation and flexibility of thought at the board. This was the source of much of his time trouble, even early in his career.
|Aug-18-12|| ||Everett: BTW, Lars Schandorff's book on the QG is a paean to Botvinnik's well-worked out approach to the game. He basically says, "play it like Mikhail." High praise indeed, in these database and computer analysis days. Botvinnik's ideas hold up.|
|Aug-19-12|| ||HeMateMe: Later on, Gatorade would steal their phrase "Be Like Misha" and incorporate it for No. 23.|
|Sep-23-12|| ||whiteshark: Quote of the Day
<Everything is in a state of flux, and this includes the world of chess.>
|Oct-09-12|| ||Gottschalk: "Bobby said he wanted to give me the advantage of two pawns.
I could not accept this offer as generous.
Instead, I gave to Fischer the real advantage of one pawn
and Bobby was unable to take advantage from a school example
of decisive position."
|Oct-09-12|| ||Fusilli: <Gottschalk> Even though he was surely kidding, what a deplorable comment. He got a losing position against Fischer and he somehow reads that as "Fischer is bad because he could not beat me"... and in a "school position". Jesus, grow up. What bothers me most of these types of comments is that they take us, those who read them or hear them, for idiots.|
|Oct-11-12|| ||waustad: I just noticed that there is another player with the same name from Israel: http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?...
I don't know the patronymic middle name of the younger player.|
|Oct-11-12|| ||Thanh Phan: <waustad: I just noticed that there is another player with the same name from Israel: http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?... I don't know the patronymic middle name of the younger player.>|
Have not found any other name yet, some games found for him http://netanyachess.com/Player/416/en http://www.365chess.com/players/Mik...
|Feb-14-13|| ||OhioChessFan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B...(1927).jpg|
No, it's not Caruana.
|Feb-14-13|| ||keypusher: <OCF> Sure isn't. It's a broken link.|
|Feb-14-13|| ||OhioChessFan: Thanks <kp>|
|Apr-05-13|| ||BUNA: Yuri Averbach recently (06.02.2013) in an interview once again was asked about the circumstances of Botvinniks exclusion from the Soviet team before the Chess Olympiad 1952. I thought a short translation might be interesting to someone.|
Averbach at the time took part in a training session as one of the possible candidates for a place in the team. Apart from him there were Botvinnik, Bronstein, Keres, Smyslov, Boleslavsky, Geller, Kotov, Petrosian.
Botvinnik lost two games to Boleslavsky and Petrosian, which added to the growing concerns about his form.
At a subsequent meeting with the leadership of the sports committee and all involved trainers (Alatortsev, Sokolsky, Tolush and Flohr) matters were discussed. Outspoken proponents of Botvinniks exclusion were Smyslov, Bronstein, Keres and Kotov. Botvinnik refused to answer any questions. :)
Averbach doesn't mention any proposal to shift Botvinnik to a lower board.
Asked about Botvinnik's reaction Averbach notes that Botvinnik took his revenge during the following Soviet championship (1952). He won it and beat the members of the Helsinki team with 4/5.
|Apr-05-13|| ||Petrosianic: <Botvinnik took his revenge during the following Soviet championship (1952). He won it and beat the members of the Helsinki team with 4/5.>|
That's true. Wins against Geller, Bronstein and Keres, draws against Smyslov and Boleslavky.
|Apr-05-13|| ||Phony Benoni: USSR Championship (1952)|
|Apr-05-13|| ||ughaibu: So, what do conspiracy theorists make of Keres' role as an "outspoken proponent of Botvinniks exclusion"?|
|Apr-05-13|| ||keypusher: <ughaibu: So, what do conspiracy theorists make of Keres' role as an "outspoken proponent of Botvinniks exclusion"?>|
Been asking variations on that question for years. Shouldn't Keres, Kotov, Smyslov, and Bronstein have been taken to the Lubyanka cellars and shot?
|Apr-06-13|| ||BUNA: "As follows from the minutes of that meeting, preserved in the archives of David Bronstein and published at the time in the magazine "Chess in Russia", he, Kotov, Smyslov and Keres argued against the inclusion of Botvinnk in the team, citing his poor, unreliable shape, as confirmed by recent tournament failures. Smyslov said bluntly: "It would be better if Botvinnik did not play in the team." Bronstein said that Botvinnik didn't follow the recent developments of chess theory and that the younger masters had overtaken him. Flohr and Boleslavsky didn't express themselfes so categorically, pointing out that a trip without the world champion could lead to undesirable responses within the chess world."|
|May-12-13|| ||Phony Benoni: Does somebody have information about why Botvinnik played at Game Collection: Wageningen 1958? It occurred right after the conclusion of the Munich Olympiad and coincided with the 20th anniversary of AVRO, but surely there is some other reason.|
|May-13-13|| ||thomastonk: <Phony Benoni> I have Botvinnik's book "Schacherinnerungen". The German edition is from 1981, the Russian original from 1978. He reports on two visits after the Olympiad, which touched aspects of his later research (but he did not intend it in those days). First, he has been in a laboratory in Erlangen, Germany, where the production of high-purity silicon has been shown. Second, he visited the Netherlands. He does not mention the tournament, but he reports in detail on his appearance in the Dutch television. The program was on the computers of those days, and Botvinnik had been invited to participate by Euwe. From the surrounding words it is also clear, that Botvinnik very much enjoyed the Netherlands because of the chess enthusiasm.|
|May-13-13|| ||thomastonk: <Phoni Benoni> From Dutch newspapers, I can report the following. The visit of Botvinnik and Flohr begun October 25 and ended most probably on November 16 (see below). Botwinnik gave 4 simultaneous exhibitions before the tournament in Wageningen, one after the second round, and four more after the tournament. The appearence in the Dutch television happened on November 13. Both, Botvinnik and Flohr, gave their last simultaneous exhibition on November 15, and a picture published November 17 shows them with their wifes at the airplane to Moscow.|
|May-13-13|| ||Phony Benoni: <thomastonk> Thank you!|
|May-13-13|| ||sneaky pete: <PB> On this visit Botvinnik was accompanied by his wife. It looks more like a holiday to me, with chess used as an excuse. Botvinnik gave 11 exhibitions (285 games; +237 =40 -8) for 350 Dutch florins each. That was a lot of money in those days. Most of it was probably spent by Mrs. Botvinnik on clothes and decadent Western luxury goods not available in the Workers Paradise.|
The Wageningen event was named the Caltex-Scheepjes-Tournament. The Location was the Hotel de Wageningscche Berg (the Mountain of Wageningen). The hotel was one sponsor, providing the location and hospitality for players and officials for free. The other sponsors were Caltex Petroleum Maatschappij (the Dutch branch of the California Texas Oil Corporation) and the Scheepjeswol (a brand of wool) factory from Veenendaal.
Scheepjeswol was big in 1958. My father owned a textile shop and was a great Scheepjeswol seller. At times our place was flooded with new stock, and the entire house, inclusing the dwellers. smelled of wool. The kids at school started calling me woolly pete. I resented that, took boxing lessons and punished any name calling. Then they called me woolly bully.
|May-13-13|| ||thomastonk: <sneaky pete: Botvinnik gave 11 exhibitions> Thank you for the correction. The 9 exhibitions I mentioned were those from the schedule that has been published shortly before the visit.|
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