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| Jun-06-08 | | MichAdams: I dislike videos without sound. |
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| Jun-06-08 | | MichAdams: <The recent 2008 Pivdenny Bank Chess Cup in the Odessa, the Ukraine....> |
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| Jun-09-08 | | Woody Wood Pusher: Karpov at his peak was the greatest of all time! |
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| Jun-09-08 | | Riverbeast: <Karpov at his peak was the greatest of all time!> Sure...
If by 'all time' you are referring to the decade 1975 - 1985, then you may be right |
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| Jun-09-08 | | Petrosianic: <Karpov at his peak was the greatest of all time!> Karpov at his peak lost to Kasparov. |
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| Jun-09-08 | | Brown: <Petrosianic: <Karpov at his peak was the greatest of all time!> Karpov at his peak lost to Kasparov.>
+4 =5 after 9 games in '84.
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| Jun-09-08 | | Petrosianic: +3-5=16 in '85, at age 34, which generally falls into what are regarded as a player's peak years. So Karpov at his peak lost to Kasparov. At least there's no real evidence of Karpov beginning to slip until well into the 1990's. Kasparov just climbed a little higher. |
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| Jun-09-08 | | Woody Wood Pusher: Linares 1994... 2899 Elo....best performance of all time = best player of all time |
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| Jun-09-08 | | percyblakeney: Karpov had the without comparison best performance of his career as late as in 1994, Kasparov had his peak result in 2002 (2933 in the Olympiad), and recently Ivanchuk scored his Sofia result (2977), far better than any previous performance of his, rating wise. For some reason it has been at an age around 40 that these players had their best Elo performance in a single event. Also Anand has showed that one can play top chess when close to 40. |
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| Jun-09-08 | | Woody Wood Pusher: Well when you take rating inflation into account....and the field...Karpov's result is still more impressive! |
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| Jun-18-08 | | Augalv: Karpov may be seen in action in Pakistan
By By Syed Khalid Mahmood
6/18/2008
KARACHI: Chess legend Anatoly Karpov has expressed interest in coming to Pakistan during the inaugural National Mind Sports Games to be held in Karachi during the month of August. Tariq Rasheed Khan, Director Mind Sports Association of Pakistan (MSAP), informed ‘The News’ here on Tuesday that Karpov, a Russian chess grandmaster and a former world champion, has responded to the invitation extended to him to be a guest in the upcoming Mind Sports Games to be staged from August 14 to 17. “Karpov’s presence will lend a star characteristic to Pakistan’s first-ever Mind Sports Games. It is expected that he will play simultaneous events for the youth and other interested chess players with special prizes on offer. A talk may also be arranged for the young chess players with the chess legend,” Tariq Rasheed said. Karpov was the undisputed world champion from 1975 to 1985, repeatedly challenged to regain the title from 1986 to 1990. Source:http://www.thenews.com.pk/print1.as... |
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| Jun-19-08 | | suenteus po 147: For you Karpov fans, here is an early tournament he won in his breakout year of 1973: Game Collection: Madrid 1973 |
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| Jun-19-08 | | sitzkrieg: Thanks Suentus, I see a lot of famous Karpov games are from that tournament. |
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| Jun-19-08 | | suenteus po 147: <sitzkrieg> You're welcome! For me, it is interesting to build and play over these historical (for my generation, anyway) tournaments. For instance, while putting this together I was reminded that Karpov started out as an 1.e4 player and it was only over the years that he shifted to being largely a 1.d4 player. |
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| Jun-19-08 | | danielpi: <Woody> Agreed. I seriously doubt that anyone would say that the 2002 Olympiad or Sofia this year had as impressive a line up as Linares 1994. Just to remind everyone: Kasparov, Kramnik, Anand, Topalov, Shirov, Kamsky Ivanchuk, Polgar, Gelfand, Bareev, Beliavsky, Lautier, and Illescas-Cordoba Karpov went +9 =4 -0 against THAT field. |
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| Jun-20-08 | | percyblakeney: If the equation performance in the best tournament equals player strength is correct, Karpov’s Linares 1994 is indeed a good reason to place him ahead of Kasparov. Surprising that it came so late in his career, otherwise Kasparov had more strong results during their respective peak years. Using Chessmetrics and only looking at tournaments, he had 6 of the 7 best performances in the 1985-94 period, 7 of the 8 best in 1995-2004, and the number 1 score already in the 1975-84 period. In 1975-84 Kasparov is followed by two Tal results, in 1995-2004 the only non-Kasparov top 8 result is Ivanchuk in 4th with his Linares 1995 (when Kasparov didn't participate). And then, in the 1985-94 period, Karpov takes the top spot with his Linares 1994, followed by six Kasparov results. |
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| Jun-20-08 | | sitzkrieg: <while putting this together I was reminded that Karpov started out as an 1.e4 player and it was only over the years that he shifted to being largely a 1.d4 player.> And he played the sicilian! |
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| Jun-20-08 | | Vollmer: What I don't understand is why Karpov is generally considered to be a 'boring' player . Its like saying that Petrosian and Botvinnik were boring . I believe he was a very patient player who would seize a small advantage and go on to win because his opponents could not equalize against his solid play . I think its clear that Fischer , Kasparov , Botvinnik , and perhaps Tal were better players at their peak than Karpov was at his peak but this in no way diminishes his accomplishments . He embraced Classical Match Play to the point of exhaustion and in that area alone he should be considered one of the top competitors of all time . |
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| Jun-20-08 | | M.D. Wilson: < think its clear that Fischer , Kasparov , Botvinnik , and perhaps Tal were better players at their peak than Karpov was at his peak but this in no way diminishes his accomplishments . > You really think that? Not sure many would agree with you. Karpov surpassed his predecessors on a number of fronts: length as champion without loss, and most title wins since Alekhine, among other things. Due to the progression of the game, it's not possible to rank players in any meaningful way. Furthermore, as the game progresses, the general playing standards increase. Nevertheless, Karpov at his peak (perhaps Linares 1994), was a monster of the board. Only Kasparov has any right to be ranked above Karpov. |
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| Jun-20-08 | | littlefermat: < What I don't understand is why Karpov is generally considered to be a 'boring' player . > Well, most of us are class players and the main components of chess all of us understand falls neatly within two categories: sacrifices or direct mating attacks. Karpov does neither. Delicate endgames or subtle, quiet defenses are beyond us. Karpov plays very efficient chess and wins with a microscopic advantage. Many of his games are 50-70 move slugfests that invariably lead to a near-drawn ending. Eventually, his opponent resigns for mysterious reasons only Fritz can explain. Not many of us understand what's going on, much less appreciate what he's doing. Of course, this isn't his fault. I, for one, will vouch that I can't follow many of his games. I think it only makes sense to suspend judgement rather than to conclude that he is fundamentally a "boring" player. He's also somebody you'd love to hate. There are a ton of slimy stories about him (communist posterboy, opportunist, etc), and I suppose ripping on his chess is just a side-effect of all of that. |
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| Jun-20-08 | | sitzkrieg: < ton of slimy stories about him>
we have to thank Kasparov, Keene and the like for that. I doubt that they are any better;) But when you look at Karpov's games from the tournament Suentus just posted, you will see many attacking games that do not belong in the typical Karpov catogeries.. |
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| Jun-20-08 | | Vollmer: The English games of Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987 are my favorites . The fighting spirit exhibited in these games rivaled the play of Bobby Fischer in this manner . In fact , this display of spirit is one of the reasons I rank Karpov so highly . |
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| Jun-20-08 | | SetNoEscapeOn: Many accomplishments by this player... winning the first Candidates cycle that he participated in, holding onto his title for three further matches (a feat no player had accomplished since Lasker, I think), Linares 1994, and of course, the drawn match with Kasparov in 1987... I think Karpov was twice only one game away from sealing (in my opinion) best ever status... in 1985 when he was up 5-0 on Kasparov, and 1987 when he was up 12-11 against the same player. I think the outcome of both of those matches is the reason a lot of people have these Kasparov and Karpov as 1-2 all time, instead of the other way around. |
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| Jun-20-08 | | percyblakeney: <Karpov at his peak (perhaps Linares 1994), was a monster of the board. Only Kasparov has any right to be ranked above Karpov> Karpov had amazing results decade after decade, maybe a monster of the board between sharing first in the Alekhine Memorial 1971 to his +3 in the match against Kamsky 25 years later. :-) I think he was at his best around 1988, when he won Tilburg with a margin of two points ahead of Short, shared first with Kasparov in the Soviet Championships, won Wijk aan Zee and Brussels, and was second behind Kasparov in Belfort and Amsterdam. This after having drawn a match against Kasparov the year before. In 1994 Karpov's Linares comes as a bit of a surprise considering that his other results are far from those 6-7 years earlier. He for example finished 5th in Buenos Aires, 2.5 points behind Salov, shared 4th-7th in Dortmund, two points behind Piket. He also failed to win Dos Hermanas, Las Palmas and Tilburg. In all these five events he was clear rating favourite. On the whole Karpov's greatest achievement is probably that he could score so even results in matches against Kasparov. |
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