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Garry Kasparov
Kasparov 
Photograph courtesy of kasparovagent.com.  

Number of games in database: 2,465
Years covered: 1973 to 2024
Last FIDE rating: 2812 (2783 rapid, 2712 blitz)
Highest rating achieved in database: 2851
Overall record: +695 -107 =709 (69.5%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games in the database. 954 exhibition games, blitz/rapid, odds games, etc. are excluded from this statistic.

MOST PLAYED OPENINGS
With the White pieces:
 Sicilian (192) 
    B30 B31 B50 B40 B33
 Ruy Lopez (104) 
    C92 C84 C97 C67 C80
 Queen's Gambit Declined (91) 
    D37 D35 D31 D38 D30
 Nimzo Indian (91) 
    E32 E34 E21 E20 E46
 Queen's Indian (78) 
    E12 E15 E17 E16
 Slav (61) 
    D10 D18 D15 D11 D17
With the Black pieces:
 Sicilian (350) 
    B90 B84 B80 B93 B83
 King's Indian (158) 
    E92 E97 E80 E60 E86
 Sicilian Najdorf (113) 
    B90 B93 B96 B92 B97
 Grunfeld (104) 
    D85 D97 D76 D87 D78
 Sicilian Scheveningen (78) 
    B84 B80 B83 B81 B82
 English (35) 
    A15 A10 A11 A13
Repertoire Explorer

NOTABLE GAMES: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Topalov, 1999 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1985 0-1
   Kasparov vs Portisch, 1983 1-0
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1990 1-0
   Kasparov vs Kramnik, 1994 1-0
   Kasparov vs Anand, 1995 1-0
   Karpov vs Kasparov, 1993 0-1
   Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1994 0-1
   Adams vs Kasparov, 2005 0-1
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1986 1-0

WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS: [what is this?]
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match 1984/85 (1984)
   Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1985)
   Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Rematch (1986)
   Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1987)
   Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990)
   Kasparov - Short PCA World Championship Match (1993)
   Kasparov - Anand PCA World Championship Match (1995)
   Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000)

NOTABLE TOURNAMENTS: [what is this?]
   Banja Luka (1979)
   World Youth U26 Team Championship (1981)
   USSR Junior Championship (1977)
   Sokolsky Memorial (1978)
   Niksic (1983)
   Baku (1980)
   World Junior Championship (1980)
   Tilburg Interpolis (1989)
   Belfort World Cup (1988)
   Intel World Chess Express Challenge (1994)
   Belgrade Investbank (1989)
   Linares (1999)
   Hoogovens Group A (1999)
   USSR Championship (1981)
   Valletta Olympiad (1980)

GAME COLLECTIONS: [what is this?]
   Kasparov The Killer!! by chezstartz
   Kasparov The Killer!! by Zhbugnoimt
   Kasparov The Killer!! by wvb933
   Kasparov The Killer!! by rpn4
   GK Collection on the move to Fredthebear's den by fredthebear
   0ZeR0's collected games volume 66 by 0ZeR0
   0ZeR0's collected games volume 166 by 0ZeR0
   Power Chess - Kasparov by Anatoly21
   Selected Games of Kasparov’s Chess Career by Cosmo Fan
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by feifo
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by alip
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by Sergio X Garcia
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by rpn4
   Garry Kasparov's Best Games by KingG

GAMES ANNOTATED BY KASPAROV: [what is this?]
   Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987
   Kasparov vs I Ivanov, 1978

RECENT GAMES:
   🏆 Champions Showdown 9LX
   Kasparov vs Aronian (Oct-31-24) 0-1, unorthodox
   Caruana vs Kasparov (Oct-31-24) 1-0, unorthodox
   Kasparov vs Sevian (Oct-30-24) 1-0, unorthodox
   G Oparin vs Kasparov (Oct-29-24) 1/2-1/2, unorthodox
   Kasparov vs Shankland (Oct-29-24) 1-0, unorthodox

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GARRY KASPAROV
(born Apr-13-1963, 62 years old) Russia
PRONUNCIATION:
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One of the greatest players of all time, Kasparov was undisputed World Champion from 1985 until 1993, and Classical World Champion from 1993 until 2000. Known to chess fans world wide as the <Beast From Baku> on account of his aggressive and highly successful style of play, his main early influence was the combative and combinative style of play displayed by Alexander Alekhine.

Early Years

Originally named Garry Kimovich Weinstein (or Weinshtein), he was born in Baku, in what was then the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic (now the Republic of Azerbaijan), and is the son of Klara Shagenovna Kasparova and Kim Moiseyevich Weinstein. At five years old, young Garry Weinstein taught himself how to play chess from watching his relatives solve chess puzzles in a newspaper. His immense natural talent was soon realized and from age 7, he attended the Young Pioneer Palace in Baku (where for some time he was known as "Garry Bronstein".*). At 10, he began training at the Mikhail Botvinnik Soviet chess school. He was first coached by Vladimir Makogonov and later by Alexander Shakarov. Five years after his father's untimely death from leukemia, the twelve year old chess prodigy adopted the Russian-sounding name Garry Kasparov (Kas-PARE-off) a reference to his mother's Armenian maiden name, Gasparyan (or Kasparian).

Championships

Junior Twelve-year old Kasparov won the Soviet Junior Championship, held in Tbilisi in 1976 scoring 7/9, and repeated his success in 1977, winning with a score of 8½ of 9. The next several years were spent marking his rise as a world-class talent. He became World Junior Champion in 1980 in Dortmund, the same year he earned the grandmaster title.

National He first qualified for the Soviet Chess Championship at age 15 in 1978, the youngest ever player at that level. He won the 64-player Swiss system tournament at Daugavpils on tiebreak over Igor Ivanov, to capture the sole qualifying place. He was joint Soviet Champion in 1980-81 with Lev Psakhis ** and in 1988 Kasparov and Anatoly Karpov tied in the Super-Soviet Championship***. In 2004, Garry Kasparov won the Russian Championship Superfinal (2004) with a stunning +5 score.

World On the basis of his result in the 1981 Soviet Championship, which doubled as a zonal tournament for the USSR region, he earned a place in the 1982 Moscow Interzonal tournament, which he won, to qualify for the Candidates Tournament matches that were held in 1983 and 1984. At age 19, he was the youngest Candidate since Robert James Fischer, who was 15 when he qualified in 1958. At this stage, he was already the #2-rated player in the world, trailing only world champion Karpov on the January 1983 list. These Candidates matches were the first and last Candidates matches Kasparov contested, as he declined to participate in the Candidates held under the auspices of the PCA in 2002 to decide a challenger to his successor as classical World Champion, Vladimir Kramnik. Kasparov's first Candidates match in Moscow was a best-of-ten affair against Alexander G Beliavsky, whom he defeated 6–3 (+4 -1 =4). After much political ado, Kasparov defeated Viktor Korchnoi in London in the best-of-12 semi-final match by 7–4 (+4 -1 =6), and in early 1984 in Vilnius he defeated former World Champion Vasily Smyslov in the best-of-16 finals played by 8.5-4.5 (+4 =9 -0) to earn his challenge against Karpov. By the time the match with Smyslov was played, Kasparov had become the number-one ranked player in the world with a FIDE rating of 2710. He became the youngest ever world number-one, a record that lasted 12 years until being broken by Vladimir Kramnik in January 1996 and again by his former pupil, Magnus Carlsen in 2010.

At one stage during the Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1984/85), Kasparov trailed 5-0 in the first-to-win-6 match. He then fought back to win three games and bring the score to 5–3 in Karpov's favour after 48 games, making it the longest world championship match ever. At that point, the match was ended without result by the then FIDE President, the late Florencio Campomanes, with Karpov thus retaining the title. Further details can be found in the match link at the head of this paragraph. Kasparov won the best-of-24 games Karpov - Kasparov World Championship Match (1985) in Moscow by 13–11, winning the 24th and last game with Black. He was then 22, the youngest ever World Champion, and broke the record held by Mikhail Tal for over 20 years. Karpov exercised his right to a rematch, the Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Rematch (1986), which took place in 1986, hosted jointly in London and Leningrad, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov won 12½–11½, retaining the title. The fourth match, the Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1987) was held in Seville. Karpov had been directly seeded into and won the final match of the Candidates' Matches to again become the official challenger. Kasparov retained his title by winning the final game and drawing the match 12–12. The fifth and last championship match between the two, Kasparov - Karpov World Championship Match (1990), was held in New York and Lyon in 1990, with each city hosting 12 games. Kasparov won by 12½–11½. In their five world championship matches, the combined game tally was +21 -19 =104 in Kasparov's favour.

Kasparov subsequently defended his title against Nigel Short under the auspices of the PCA in 1993, and against Viswanathan Anand in 1995. Five years later, in 2000 (Kasparov - Kramnik Classical World Championship Match (2000)), Kasparov finally relinquished his crown to his former student, Vladimir Kramnik, who was granted the right to challenge without having to qualify, the first time this had happened since 1935, when Alexander Alekhine selected Max Euwe as his challenger. Subsequently, Kasparov remained the top rated player in the world, ahead of both Kramnik and the FIDE World Champions, on the strength of a series of wins in major tournaments.

Under the "Prague Agreement" which was put together by Yasser Seirawan to reunite the two titles, Kasparov was to play a match against the 2002 FIDE World Champion Ruslan Ponomariov in September 2003. But this match was cancelled when Ponomariov was dissatisfied with the terms of the contract. Subsequent plans for a match against 2004 FIDE World Champion Rustam Kasimdzhanov, to be held in January 2005 in the United Arab Emirates, fell through due to lack of funding. Shortly after this, Kasparov announced his retirement from competitive chess.

In an interview in 2007, Kasparov said that <…my decision in 1993 to break away from the world chess federation, FIDE, with Nigel Short was the worst mistake of my career. It was a serious miscalculation on my part. I thought we could start fresh with a professional organisation, but there was little support among the players. It led to short-term progress in commercial sponsorship for chess, but in the long run hurt the game...> ****

Classical Tournaments

In 1978, Kasparov won the Sokolsky Memorial tournament in Minsk as a wild card entry, a victory which convinced Kasparov he could aim for the World Championship. He played in a grandmaster tournament in Banja Luka, Yugoslavia in 1979 while still unrated, due to Korchnoi's withdrawal. He took first place with an undefeated record, two points ahead of the field. Game Collection: Banja Luka 1979 He emerged with a provisional rating of 2595, immediately landing at world number 15, a feat only surpassed by Gata Kamsky in July 1990. His first win in a superclass-level international tournament was scored at Bugojno, Yugoslavia in 1982, and his win in Linares in 2002 was the tenth victory in a row, a record for the most consecutive victories in super tournaments: Linares 4 (1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, Wijk aan Zee 3 (1999, 2000, 2001), Sarajevo 2 (1999, 2000) and Astana 1 (2001). Kasparov also holds the record for most consecutive professional tournament victories, placing first or equal first in 15 individual tournaments from 1981 to 1990. It started with the 1981 USSR Championship and finished in Linares in 1990. His five epic title matches against Karpov were held during this period. Subsequently, Kasparov won Linares again in 1992, 1993, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2005, the latter being his swan song from the game.

Olympiads

Kasparov played in eight Olympiads. He represented the Soviet Union four times, in 1980, 1982, 1986 and 1988, and Russia four times: in 1992, 1994, 1996 and 2002 playing board 1 on each occasion apart from 1980 (2nd reserve) and 1982 (2nd board). In 82 games, he scored (+50 =29 -3), for 78.7% and won a total of 19 medals, including 8 team gold medals, 5 board golds, 2 performance golds, 2 performance silvers and 2 board bronzes. Kasparov also represented the USSR once in Youth Olympiad competition at Graz in 1981, when he played board 1 for the USSR board 1, scoring 9/10 (+8 =2 -0), the team winning the gold medal.

Team chess

Kasparov made his international teams debut for the USSR at age 16 in the 1980 European Team Championship at Skara and played for Russia in the 1992 edition of that championship. He won a total of five medals including at Skara 1980, as USSR 2nd reserve, 5½/6 (+5 =1 -0), team gold, board gold and at Debrecen 1992, Russia board 1, 6/8 (+4 =4 -0), team gold, board gold, performance silver.

Matches

<Computer> Kasparov defeated the chess computer Deep Thought (Computer) in both games of a two-game match in 1989. In February 1996, he defeated IBM's chess computer Deep Blue (Computer) with three wins and two draws and one loss. In 1997, an updated version of Deep Blue defeated Kasparov 3½–2½ in a highly publicised six-game match. The match was even after five games but Kasparov lost Game 6 - Deep Blue vs Kasparov, 1997 - to lose the match. This was the first time a computer had ever defeated a world champion in match play. In January 2003, he played and drew a six game FIDE Man - Machine WC (2003) match against Deep Junior (Computer). In November 2003, he played and drew a four-game Man - Machine World Chess Championship (2003) against the computer program X3D Fritz (Computer) X3D Fritz, although he was constrained through the use of a virtual board, 3D glasses and a speech recognition system.

<Human – classical> Kasparov played several matches apart from his matches in the World Championship cycles. Full details can be seen at Game Collection: Match Kasparov!.

<Human – rapid> In 1998, Kasparov played a blitz match against Kramnik in Moscow, that match being drawn +7-7=10. He fared better in the 2000 internet blitz match against Judit Polgar, winning one and drawing one. The following year, he played a blitz match against the many times Greek speed chess champion Hristos Banikas of Greece, winning 5 and drawing one. In his 2002 blitz against Elisabeth Paehtz in Munich, he won 6-0. Later in 2002, Kasparov lost a four game rapid match (+1 -2 =1) over two days in December 2002 in New York City against Anatoly Karpov. In 2009 in Valencia, Spain, he again played Karpov, and won the Kasparov - Karpov Rapid Match (2009) 3-1 and the Kasparov - Karpov Blitz Match (2009) by 6-2. In 2011, as part of his Chess In Schools campaign, he played a two game Kasparov - Lagrave Blitz Match (2011) in Clichy France, winning by 1.5-0.5. A few months later in October 2011, he won the Kasparov - Short Blitz Match (2011) 4.5-3.5 (+3 -2 =3), breaking the deadlock after game 7 by winning game 8 to win the match.

<Simuls> In 1985, Kasparov played his first simul against a team, the Hamburg Bundesliga team lead by GM Murray Chandler, and lost 3.5-4.5, the first and only time he lost a simul against a team. In 1987, he played a simul against the same albeit slightly stronger team, but this time he was prepared and crushed the Hamburg players 7-1; later in 1987 he also crushed the Swiss team: Game Collection: Kasparov vs Swiss Team Simul by 5.5-0.5, drawing only with former World Junior Champion Werner Hug. In 1988 he played a simul against the French team in Evry (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul), winning 4, drawing one and losing one; he played the French team again in 1989 (Game Collection: Kasparov vs French Team Simul 1989), this time winning three and drawing 3 games. Also in 1988 he played a simul against a group of powerful US Juniors, and won by 4-2 (+3 -1 =2)*****. In 1992, Kasparov played a clock simul against the German team ( Game Collection: Kasparov vs German National Team Simul) which included former title contender Vlastimil Hort with whom he drew, winning 2 and drawing 2. He played a simul against the Argentinean team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Argentinian Team Simul) winning (+7 -1 =4); in 1998 he played the Israeli team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Israeli National Team Simul) winning 7-1, and in 2001 he played the Czech team (Game Collection: Kasparov vs Czech National Team Simul) in Prague, winning by +4 -1 =3.

Rating

Kasparov's ratings achievements include being rated world #1 according to Elo rating almost continuously from 1986 until his retirement in 2005. He was the world number-one ranked player for 255 months, a record that far outstrips all other previous and current number-one ranked players. Kasparov had the highest Elo rating in the world continuously from 1986 to 2005. However, Vladimir Kramnik equaled him in the January 1996 FIDE ratings list, technically supplanting him because he played more games. He was also briefly ejected from the list following his split from FIDE in 1993, but during that time he headed the rating list of the rival PCA. At the time of his retirement, he was still ranked #1 in the world, with a rating of 2812. In January 1990 Kasparov achieved the (then) highest FIDE rating ever, passing 2800 and breaking Bobby Fischer's old record of 2785. On the July 1999 and January 2000 FIDE rating lists Kasparov reached a 2851 Elo rating, which became the highest rating ever achieved until surpassed by Magnus Carlsen in 2013. There was a time in the early 1990s when Kasparov was over 2800 and the only person in the 2700s was Anatoly Karpov.

Other

Under Kasparov's tutelage, Carlsen became the youngest ever to achieve a FIDE rating higher than 2800, and the youngest ever world number one. Kasparov also assisted Anand's preparation for the Anand - Topalov World Championship Match (2010) against challenger Veselin Topalov. Since his retirement, Kasparov has concentrated much of his time and energy in Russian politics. He is also a prolific author, most famously his <My Great Predecessors> series. His politics and authorship are discussed at some detail in the wiki article and at his official website cited below. In 2007, he was ranked 25th in The Daily Telegraph's list of 100 greatest living geniuses and has won 11 Chess Oscars.

Kasparov has been married three times: first to Masha, with whom he had a daughter, Polina (b. 1993), before divorcing; to Yulia, with whom he had a son, Vadim (b. 1996) before their 2005 divorce; and to Daria, with whom he also has a daughter, Aida (b. 2006).

Biography: http://www.kasparovagent.com/garry_... Kasparov's official website: http://kasparov.com/ Kasparov Chess Foundation: http://www.kasparovchessfoundation....

* http://timkr.home.xs4all.nl/chess2/... ** [rusbase-1] *** [rusbase-2] **** [rusbase-3] ***** http://www.chessbase.com/newsprint....

Wikipedia article: Kasparov

Last updated: 2022-02-28 10:27:37

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 page 1 of 99; games 1-25 of 2,465  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Kasparov vs O Vasilchenko 1-0401973KievC03 French, Tarrasch
2. Kasparov vs S Muratkuliev 1-0321973Baku tt U18C77 Ruy Lopez
3. L Zaid vs Kasparov 1-0381973URS-chT JuniorsE61 King's Indian
4. E Magerramov vs Kasparov 0-1351973BakuB45 Sicilian, Taimanov
5. E Kengis vs Kasparov ½-½541973URS-chT JuniorsB88 Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
6. Kasparov vs O Privorotsky 1-0381974Azerbaijan Team ChampionshipB40 Sicilian
7. R Sarkisov vs Kasparov  0-1391974City Team ChampionshipB56 Sicilian
8. R Sarkisov vs Kasparov 0-1351974City Team ChampionshipE90 King's Indian
9. Kasparov vs Averbakh 1-0481974Moscow clock simC69 Ruy Lopez, Exchange, Gligoric Variation
10. V Gazarian vs Kasparov 0-1561974Baku Schools Team ChampionshipD86 Grunfeld, Exchange
11. O Pavlenko vs Kasparov 0-1341975Baku Cup FinalE71 King's Indian, Makagonov System (5.h3)
12. Romanishin vs Kasparov 0-1321975LeningradA02 Bird's Opening
13. Kasparov vs Smyslov 0-1301975Team GM/Young PioneersC60 Ruy Lopez
14. Kasparov vs Polugaevsky ½-½251975LeningradA07 King's Indian Attack
15. Karpov vs Kasparov 1-0451975LeningradB92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky Variation
16. Dvoirys vs Kasparov ½-½451975USSR Junior ChampionshipB89 Sicilian
17. Z Einoris vs Kasparov 0-1421975USSR Junior ChampionshipB59 Sicilian, Boleslavsky Variation, 7.Nb3
18. Kasparov vs V Sokolov 1-0321975USSR Junior ChampionshipB67 Sicilian, Richter-Rauzer Attack, 7...a6 Defense, 8...Bd7
19. Kasparov vs E Kengis ½-½271975USSR Junior ChampionshipB52 Sicilian, Canal-Sokolsky (Rossolimo) Attack
20. Vladimirov vs Kasparov ½-½301975USSR Junior ChampionshipE17 Queen's Indian
21. Rizvonov vs Kasparov 0-1371975USSR Junior ChampionshipE17 Queen's Indian
22. Kasparov vs Yermolinsky 0-1481975USSR Junior ChampionshipB05 Alekhine's Defense, Modern
23. Kasparov vs S Gorelov 1-0581975USSR Junior ChampionshipC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
24. Kasparov vs Yurtaev 0-1441975USSR Junior ChampionshipB39 Sicilian, Accelerated Fianchetto, Breyer Variation
25. Kasparov vs B Kantsler 1-0321975Junior competitionA07 King's Indian Attack
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Feb-11-12  matebay: IQ tests measures Human intelligence
Abilities and Traits as follows:
<Abstract thought
Communication • Creativity
Emotional Intelligence
Knowledge • Learning • Memory
Problem solving • Reaction time
Reasoning • Understanding
Visual processing>

Surely the following relates to chess:< • Learning • Memory Problem solving • Reaction time Reasoning • Understanding
Visual processing>

proven by the result of the following case studies:

1. In 1894, Alfred Binet conducted one of the first psychological studies into chess. He investigated the cognitive facilities of chess masters. Binet hypothosized that chess depends upon the phenomenological qualities of visual memory. He found that only chess masters were able to play chess successfully without seeing the board and intermediate players found it impossible to play a game of blindfold chess.

2. In 1925, three Soviet psychologists, Djakow, Rudik, and Petrovsky, conducted extensive tests on chess masters and came to the conclusion that their powers of memory were only greater than that of the layman as far as chess was concerned. In other areas, there was no difference. The researchers determined that high achievement in chess is based on: exceptional visual memory, combinational power, speed of calculation, power of concentration, and logical thinking.

Fischer having an IQ of 180 compared to Kasparov with a 135 IQ means he is better than Kasparov in these areas...that makes him the better chess player...

Feb-11-12  Blunderdome: <matebay> Thanks for reply. I have to take issue with a few things:

1. Are either of those numbers confirmed test scores, or are they "estimates," of which so many are floating around? If they are real test scores, <which test> was it and what year was it taken? (This matters due to renorming; see the Flynn Effect, I believe there's a good wiki).

2. 135 is not "pathetic" compared to 180 on an IQ test, despite the apparent large gap; see Refused's response to me earlier, beginning with <Most standard IQ tests get a problem discriminating between testees with very high values.>

3. Even if there is a correlation between IQ and chess ability, it can't possibly be better evidence than a great body of games and results, as we have for both Fischer and Kasparov.

Feb-11-12  matebay: <provided your age remains suspended.>

This could be done in various ways:

1. drink an elixir of youth...(refer to death becomes her movie)

2. get yourself bitten by twilight.

3. you slept for 20 years aka Rip Van Winkle after drinking liquor given by a group of ornately-dressed, silent, bearded men who are playing nine-pins.

4. You've been abducted by aliens, brought inside their spaceship and flown at the speed of light.

Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity predicted that time does not flow at a fixed rate: moving clocks appear to tick more slowly relative to their stationary counterparts. But this effect only becomes really significant at very high velocities that app roach the speed of light.

Feb-12-12  matebay: <1. Are either of those numbers confirmed test scores, or are they "estimates," of which so many are floating around? If they are real test scores, <which test> was it and what year was it taken? (This matters due to renorming; see the Flynn Effect, I believe there's a good wiki).>

Fischer's 180 score is alleged..i.e. not verified.Fischer is credited with having an incredible memory and took the Stanford-Binet IQ test at his high school, in Brooklyn where, according to chess.com, he scored 180.

Kasparov's 135 score verified: Some sources give Garry Kasparov, a renowned chess player, an IQ between 185 and 190. But in 1987-88, the German magazine Der Spiegel went to considerable effort and expense to find out Kasparov's IQ. Under the supervision of an international team of psychologists, Kasparov was given a large battery of tests designed to measure his memory, spatial ability, and abstract reasoning. They measured his IQ as 135 and his memory as one of the very best.

<2. 135 is not "pathetic" compared to 180 on an IQ test, despite the apparent large gap; see Refused's response to me earlier, beginning with <Most standard IQ tests get a problem discriminating between testees with very high values.>> Ok...still Fischer is ahead of Kaspy...that's what matters.

<3. Even if there is a correlation between IQ and chess ability, it can't possibly be better evidence than a great body of games and results, as we have for both Fischer and Kasparov.>

Well, IQ places them in the same time zone enabling a comparison...which can't be said of elo...because as I have said before, much of it depended on resources which leans more to Garry's favor..he being born during a time to solicit assistance from strong engines and rich library and database of chessgames to learn from...

Fischer did not have the best opportunity to learn from engines...he does not even drive a car...so is not accustomed to the workings of an internal combustion engine.

He was not able to play a game against Houdini...nor analyze his games using one...The Houdini he knows is the escape artist...http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...

Feb-12-12  matebay: besides Fischer's 2785 rating was on the upward trend...it's bound to increase even more...yet he chose not to..went to seclusion as all genius with high IQ's do...the likes of Morphy and Sidis comes to mind...

In a study, it was observed that high IQ children failed to develop desirable work habits in a school setting geared for average children. In such a setting, the high IQ children spent considerable time in idleness and daydreaming. Consequently, they learned to dislike school. Twas also noted that high IQ children found it difficult in finding companionship. Consequently, these high IQ children became socially isolated.

Twas under this condition which prompted Bobby to quit school and live a hermit's life like <nanobrain>.

Feb-12-12  Blunderdome: <Well, IQ places them in the same time zone enabling a comparison.>

That's not true; see your post. Fischer would have been in middle school in what, 1954? Over thirty years before Garry's examination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_...

Why not use quotations or brackets when quoting directly from other sources?

Feb-12-12  matebay: It differs not whether they were give the IQ test in 1954 or 2012-- if the same test was given. As it is, Fischer was given the Stanford Binet IQ test...whereas there was no indication what type of test Kasparov took. If it was the same Stanford Binet IQ test which Garry took (which I doubt), then surely Fischer was better. And also the question of veracity must be taken into consideration. Fischer's reported score was alleged and never been verified. On the other hand, Kasparov's test was closely administered.

The quest for the best barometer to judge the greatest chessplayer who ever lived goes on....

Feb-12-12  matebay: Infact, as pointed out earlier, some sources give Garry Kasparov, an IQ between 185 and 190. Surely if it could be established that these were the same tests administered to Fischer, then Kasparov is better compared to Fischer by 5 to 10 points. But these are alleged...the same with results Bobby gained in his tests...We need verified truth than gossips. Established facts and not hearsay can only be used in our search and determination of the truth.
Feb-12-12  matebay: We need to issue subpeona duces tecum to Fischer's psychometrist in the guidance office of Erasmus Hall High School to give us the papers showing the results of Bobby's IQ test.

Also, the what,who,where,why and other circumstances surrounding the rumor of a Garry 185 IQ test must also be brought away from the darkness and towards the light.

Feb-12-12  bronkenstein: Maybe somebody simply applied the funny <IQ = (Elo-1000)/10> formula (for example , http://www.google.rs/url?sa=t&rct=j..., from the <Levitt Equation> there) to Garry`s peak rating (2851), getting 185 as the `result`.
Feb-12-12  Refused: Refused: <matebay: IQ tests measures Human intelligence Abilities and Traits as follows:
<Abstract thought
Communication • Creativity
Emotional Intelligence
Knowledge • Learning • Memory
Problem solving • Reaction time
Reasoning • Understanding
Visual processing>

Really? You have no idea what intelligence actually is.

Emotional Intelligence?
That's a rather new construct. And afaik there's no established test to measure it, yet. I think it was Howard Gardner how made it popular, but there's still a dispute if that actually belongs to Intelligence.

Creativity?
Is Creativity actually a part of Intelligence? There are correlation and I know of one intelligence test, that includes it. Maybe in the English speaking room there are a few, but I doubt they were around in the 1960s.

Knowledge, hum, depends. Fluid intelligence is more interesting than chrystalized intelligence. But both are important in a way. Usually one is more intersted in g-fluid though. Anyway I doubt Fischer would have scored very high on the knowledge (~chrystalized) part of an intelligence test. To put it more bluntly: A highschool drop out would have a hard time to score very high there. I just remember that story of some tournament in Paris and two players were having a chat: "Have you seen the Mona Lisa, yet?" Fischer: "At which board does she play?" Fischer was a great player, but apart from that?

I could continue, but I am too lazy to.

I have never held the Stanford Binet tests in my hand, and did not know that it was still in use. But if I am not totally mistaken it's more or less a predecessor of Raven's Standard Progressive Matrices. So that would actually test a smaller part of the whole intelligence spectrum, you proposed. And that test suffers from a ceiling effect afaik.

<In a study, it was observed that high IQ children failed to develop desirable work habits in a school setting geared for average children. In such a setting, the high IQ children spent considerable time in idleness and daydreaming. Consequently, they learned to dislike school. Twas also noted that high IQ children found it difficult in finding companionship. Consequently, these high IQ children became socially isolated.>

That's a myth. Lewis Terman coducted a longitude study 90 years ago. His "Termites" did quite well academically and in life. There are probably quite a few newer studies around, that replicated Terman's findings.

Wanna talk about giftedness and chessplayers, read Nunn's vita. That's more like it. He would probably score quite high on intelligence tests.

On another note, I know a professor of economics with a rating of 1300. So really. Do not conclude from chess to intelligence. :')

<Fischer's 180 score is alleged..i.e. not verified.Fischer is credited with having an incredible memory and took the Stanford-Binet IQ test at his high school, in Brooklyn where, according to chess.com, he scored 180.>

Results of IQ-Tests are confidential, at least where I live. So I am sceptical about that.

Feb-12-12  matebay: <Maybe somebody simply applied the funny <IQ = (Elo-1000)/10> formula (for example , http://www.google.rs/url?sa=t&rct=j..., from the <Levitt Equation> there) to Garry`s peak rating (2851), getting 185 as the `result`.>

It is settled then. Garry's 185 IQ a farce. His verified IQ of 135 governs and he is hereby diagnosed as moderately gifted.

IQ Score Category of Giftedness
115-129 Mildly Gifted
130-144 Moderately Gifted
145-159 Highly Gifted
160-179 Exceptionally Gifted
180 & Above Profoundly Gifted

Fischer on the other hand is profoundly gifted. So profound that it extends beyond the ocean floors into the cosmos ...Gran Telescopio Canarias, the world's largest optical telescope can not even capture.

Feb-12-12  matebay: <Really? You have no idea what intelligence actually is.> I beg to differ. Behold my definition of intelligence which I googled from WIKI:

<Intelligence has been defined in different ways, including the abilities, but not limited to, abstract thought, understanding, self-awareness, communication, reasoning, learning, having emotional knowledge, retaining, planning, and problem solving.>

They are the same abilities and traits measured by IQ tests...A strong correlation of IQ test scores and intelligence exists. The tie between them is so strong like a conjoined siamese twin that it would take more than a month for a multiple team of surgeons and nurses to separate them.

Feb-12-12  Refused: <They are the same abilities and traits measured by IQ tests...A strong correlation of IQ test scores and intelligence exists.>

I rest my case. Basically I quote the before mentioned E.G. Boring.

Intelligence is whatever the intelligence test measures.

You keep on repeating it correlates with IQ-test scores, but you did not give a definition. Even if I sound now elitist or arrogant, I'm in no mood and neither do I have he time to discuss intelligence as a construct with people who need to google it or simply copy and paste stuff from wikipedia, without understanding it.

Maybe blunderdome is in the mood to educate you a bit on that subject. He seems to know a thing or two about the subject.

Feb-12-12  matebay: <I'm in no mood and neither do I have he time to discuss intelligence as a construct with people who need to google it or simply copy and paste stuff from wikipedia, without understanding it.>

Don't be a hypo...all your posts have the signs of <copy paste> written all over it as well...

Feb-12-12  matebay: At least I'm honest enough to admit my sources...

Consider this. All your notions about emotional intelligence and creativity as not measurable by an IQ test is not an original idea.

It was obviously crafted from WIKI which has this to say:

<Relation between IQ and intelligence See also: Intelligence

IQ is the most researched approach to intelligence and by far the most widely used in practical setting. However, although IQ attempts to measure some notion of intelligence, it may fail to act as an accurate measure of "intelligence" in its broadest sense. IQ tests only examine particular areas embodied by the broadest notion of "intelligence", failing to account for certain areas which are also associated with "intelligence" such as creativity or emotional intelligence.>

You have been exposed ...you stand to suffer the same fate of rybka.

Feb-12-12  shach matov: <Refused> Ignore the troll <matebay> like everybody else does. No rational or serious argument is possible there. Recently he was arguing that Wesley So (whoever that is) is the reincarnation of Fischer, apparently forgetting that Fischer was still alive when So was born ;]. So don't waste your time.
Feb-12-12  matebay: Are you serious? Where's the proof?
Feb-12-12  Blunderdome: <matebay> It doesn't really make sense to say IQ and intelligence are "correlated." IQ tests are an attempt to <measure> intelligence -- a specific definition of intelligence proposed by the maker of a particular test. Intelligence is a construct; it cannot be observed, it's existence is inferred from behaviors.

People have defined intelligence in many different ways, using various combinations of the traits on that list you copied from the Wikipedia page for "Intelligence quotient." I'm sure neither Bobby or Garry, if they were tested, were tested for Emotional Intelligence (for example).

I wouldn't accuse <Refused> of copy & pasting.

It seems like you have an axe to grind in the old Fischer vs. Kasparov argument. I don't think you care much about IQ tests except insofar as you can make them appear to support your argument.

Feb-12-12  drnooo: mucho babble going on here: IQ, or lets say intelligence is pretty simple in anything. Its DOING. whether its repairing a window or cooking a dinner, and if you can repair the window faster and better than the next guy or cook a better meal...or beat somebody at a game. One of the games being an IQ test. They are, all of them games too, just seldom recognized as such. Notice we use the word genius for all kinds of things, athletic, culinary, architecture with very slippery measurements but they all revolve around DOING something well. And doing Anything just aint that abstract. My own feeling here is say about Fischer, he could move pieces around a board well, but winding up in the Pasadena jail put him fairly low on the IQ scale, not too bright. Overall he always stuck me as a better than decent memory, and not much else. As for Kaspy, his getting involved in Russky politics is about as stupid as you can get.
Feb-12-12  matebay: <It doesn't really make sense to say IQ and intelligence are "correlated>

Of course it does. It makes a lot of sense, I say a billion dollar worth of cents and not just 2 cents worth.

Why does everyone seem to have a hard time understanding the relation between the two when it is as simple as 1 plus 1 equals 2...not even close to E=MC2.

Let me try once again with a very simple illustration this time.

among other traits, <intelligence> is defined by the quality of one's:

1.Learning ability

2.Memory Problem solving ability

3.Reaction time Reasoning ability

4.Understanding ability

5.Visual processing ability

<IQ tests> are designed to measure :

1.Learning ability

2.Memory Problem solving ability

3.Reaction time Reasoning ability

4.Understanding ability

5.Visual processing ability

Hence, a part of intelligence (as it is applied in the game of chess) is measured by IQ tests....

Ergo, the one with the high IQ scores is more intelligent than the one with low IQ scores.

Ergo, the one with the high IQ scores on areas relating to chess ability is a better player than the one with the low IQ scores on areas relating to chess ability.

Fischer scores 180...Kasparov scores 135.

Ergo, Bobby is more intelligent and a better player than Garry.

Feb-12-12  matebay: <My own feeling here is say about Fischer, he could move pieces around a board well, but winding up in the Pasadena jail put him fairly low on the IQ scale, not too bright.>

Fischer is a genius in the game of chess but a moron in the game of life.

There is a general consensus on this.

Feb-13-12  matebay: <As for Kaspy, his getting involved in Russky politics is about as stupid as you can get.>

Kaspy is a moderate genius in chess warfare but an imbecile in the political arena.

This one is undisputable too.

Feb-13-12  matebay: It seems the working of the human brain would only allow someone to excel in one field of endeavor and fail miserably on the rest...Safe to say then that I could beat Einstein in chess employing the fools mate...he would exact vengeance by showing me his derivation of theory of relativity formula...my mind would not be able to cope up with the mass of information, I would ask for one year of adjournment period just to be able to comprehend.
Feb-13-12  Blunderdome: <matebay> Well, I've enjoyed our discussion. I would point out what I see as problems with your argument but I would just be repeating myself and I don't think you are actually interested.

My original suggestion still stands: if you want to compare Fischer and Kasparov, we have plenty of games by each you could study.

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