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| Aug-12-12 | | King Death: <alexmagnus> That's great! When you consider how much Karpov played the Caro Kann later it makes me want to laugh reading that. |
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| Aug-12-12 | | Everett: And some of Karpov's CK games in the 90's are actually excellent, but his results became more and more inconsistent with it. And he seemed to really struggle when the advanced CK became more prevalent. Probably a combination of age and a general lack of flexibility to adjust to the new ideas... And, yes, the Ruy Zaitsev actually netted him good positions out of the opening, and he missed a few winning moments (!) vs Kasparov in '90 with it, but it seemed there was a reason he didnt hold/convert from the opening. It may have been too much complexity for him. Kasparov simply played better at the critical moments in each game. |
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| Aug-12-12 | | Everett: <perfidious: <Everett> It was round about that time that Karpov's repertoire against top-class players in particular became narrow.> How much was this the "true" Karpov emerging, since he didn't have Geller and the rest working on his openings for him? Don't get me wrong, outside of WC matches, I think he played his own lines that were positionally sound and not ultra-sharp. One example is a pet line he had vs the Dragon with an early Bg5. I think by the late 80's though, he did not secure the help necessary to work as broadly in the opening. Probably a pragmatic decision, especially since he seemed to excel with the space advantage resulting from the most challenging responses to 1.d4; the KID and Grunfeld. And he barely lost a semi-Slav during that whole time, with the super-slow a3 and h3. |
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| Aug-12-12 | | Everett: Lifted from a recent kibitz is some support for my thoughts on Karpov's opening prep, and cements my belief that Carlsen is more like Karpov than be think. <achieve: I read in Timman's Biography that Karpov, according to Timman, had a particularly bad memory, compared to other chess players, and memorizing many opening lines for the many different players one plays in tournaments wasn't Karpov's "forte", to put it mildly, and cleverly he didn't waste too much time on them, as opposed to of course for title matches (plus candidates matches), where he had no choice, but could focus on one player at a time. And had the luxury of being able to hire good seconds.> |
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| Aug-13-12 | | King Death: What <achieve> quoted makes sense, when Karpov was young his memory was better and he could memorize some. Of course Karpov's positional play was so strong that it was hard for even the top players to beat, if Kasparov in their matches had a tough time. |
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| Aug-23-12 | | Psihadal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pcf...
An interesting interview with Karpov. |
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| Sep-16-12 | | Conrad93: He has had a terrible chess career. |
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Sep-17-12
 | | Eggman: <<He has had a terrible chess career.>> Well, this is really just trolling, n'est pas? |
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| Sep-17-12 | | Conrad93: Compared to other world champions and to other great chess players, Karpov is average at best. |
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Sep-17-12
| | Eggman: <<Compared to other world champions and to other great chess players, Karpov is average at best.>> Sorry, but you don't fool me. This is not really your view. You're trolling. |
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| Sep-17-12 | | Conrad93: You caught me.
By the way, his English is not bad.
It's a bit sluggish, though. |
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| Sep-17-12 | | Conrad93: And does he speak Spanish? |
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| Sep-17-12 | | Petrosianic: It's working though even without fooling you. |
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| Sep-17-12 | | Conrad93: I don't think you can tell the difference between trolling and s normal discussion. I am asking whether Karpov speaks Spanish. |
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Sep-25-12
 | | Joshka: <Conrad93> <asking whether Karpov speaks Spanish> Yes, he does. I've seen interviews from back in the 80's, and Karpov is taking questions from the press, and asking them, what language he would prefer an answer in. Believe he said he could answer in English, Russian, and Spanish. I had the fortunate opportunity to question Karpov during the 2003 US Open in Florida, his English is very sluggish as someone pointed out, and very hard on the ears, for me anyway. |
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Sep-25-12
 | | HeMateMe: Is he still collecting stamps? That was supposed to be a big hobby for him, back in the day. |
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| Sep-25-12 | | Petrosianic: I don't think he's had time for much phil lately. |
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| Oct-11-12 | | WiseWizard: In today's world of opening prep equality, I don't think Kasparov ever takes the title from Karpov, all those smashing Ruy Lopez games Kasparov had would have been neutralized from the start. |
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Oct-11-12
 | | perfidious: < WiseWizard: In today's world of opening prep equality, I don't think Kasparov ever takes the title from Karpov, all those smashing Ruy Lopez games Kasparov had would have been neutralized from the start.> Is that right?
Somehow, Kasparov never won any of those Spanish encounters in the first twenty moves or so-if my above statement is incorrect, I should like to see the proof-not that there is, or can be, any. That old main line is as booked up as anything and even a well-prepared Black of ordinary master standard would not get 'smashed', as characterised by you. Kasparov was a great player in all phases of the game, and it is ridiculous to state that he only defeated Karpov because of superior opening preparation. |
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| Oct-11-12 | | ozmikey: <WiseWizard> But this begs the question of whether Karpov would have been prepared to do the hard slog of computer preparation had he been at his peak at the present time. Some of his former assistants (Mikhalchisin, for one) remarked that he was sometimes a bit lazy with opening preparation in general, especially when it came to sharper lines. I've always considered that Kasparov and Karpov were both towering chess talents, but that the former was always prepared to put in a bit more effort in terms of preparation (the Botvinnik influence was obviously crucial there). And even in today's engine-driven chess world I think that would have given him the edge. |
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| Oct-11-12 | | achieve: Kaboom |
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Oct-11-12
 | | Troller: <HeMateMe: Is he still collecting stamps? That was supposed to be a big hobby for him, back in the day.> Well, he sold his Belgian collection, I think even setting a world record for the price of a single stamp in doing so. http://www.davidfeldman.com/buying/... |
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Oct-11-12
 | | Peligroso Patzer: The following post from page 25 of this thread: Bilbao Masters (2012) seems worth reproducing here: <achieve: <just wondering if Karpov's comparative strength made his peers look less strong than they would otherwise.> Very much so. The two Ks still are far ahead of anyone that followed them, and in large part the many matches and games they played in 1984-86 propelled them to such high levels of chess. Both kept pushing eachother in all three phases of the game, and the rest-of-the-world was mostly left in a cloud of dust, at respectable distance.I remember a quote from GM John van der Wiel during that time (late 80s), as the analysts and various newspaper columnists were unable to grasp the superiority and depth of insight and calculations: "They play a different kind of Chess..."
Karpov's tournament record is second to none, and here's a list of some of his most dominant performances: Skopje 1976, 1st, +10 =5
Euwe Memorial, Armsterdam 1976, 1st, +2 =4
Montilla-Moriles 1976, 1st, +5 =4
USSR Championship 1976, 1st, +8 =8 -1
Bad Lauterberg 1977, 1st, +9 =6
Las Palmas 1977, 1st, +12 =3
Tilburg 1977, 1st, +5 =6
Bugojno 1978, 1st shared, +6 =8 -1
Montreal 1979, 1st shared, +7 =10 -1
Waddinxveen 1979, 1st, +4 =2
Tilburg 1979, 1st, +4 =7
Bad Kissingen 1980, 1st, +3 =3
Bugojno 1980, 1st, +5 =6
Amsterdam 1980, 1st, +7 =6 -1
Tilburg 1980, 1st, +4 =7
Linares 1981, 1st shared, +5 =6
Moscow 1981, 1st, +5 =8
London 1982, 1st shared, +5 =7 -1
Torino 1982, 1st shared, +2 =8 -1
Tilburg 1982, 1st, +5 =5 -1
USSR Championship 1983, 1st, +5 =9 -1
Hannover 1983, 1st, +8 =6 -1
Oslo 1984, 1st, +3 =6
London 1984, 1st, +6 =6 -1
Amsterdam 1985, 1st, +4 =6
Brussels 1986, 1st, +7 =4
Bugojno 1986, 1st, +4 =9 -1
Amsterdam 1987, 1st shared, +2 =4
Wijk and Zee 1988, 1st, +6 =6 -1
Tilburg 1988, 1st, +7 =7
USSR Championship 1988, 1st shared, +6 =11
Mazatlan 1988 (I Rapid Chess WC), 1st, +8 =12 -2
Skelleftea 1989 WC, 1st shared, +4 =10
Reggio Emilia 1990/91, 1st, +3 =9
Reykjavik 1991, 1st shared, +7 =7 -1
Biel 1992, 1st, +8 =5 -1
Baden-Baden 1992, 1st, +8 =3
Dortmund 1993, 1st, +5 =1 -1
Tilburg, 1993, 1st, +3 -0 =9 [+4 -0 =2]
Linares 1994, 1st, +9 =4
Amber 1995, 1st, +13 =6 -3
Dos Hermanas 1995, 1st shared, +3 =6
Groningen 1995, 1st, +4 =7
Vienna 1996, 1st shared, +3 =5 -1> |
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| Oct-12-12 | | QueentakesKing: In my 'book', I put< KARPOV>and Kasparov side by side on the number one spot as among the top great champions(clock period). Based on the number of tournament victories.among others. I believe that this record will stand for a long time, if not forever. |
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| Nov-03-12 | | waustad: Karpov and Ivanchuk are in the finals at Cap d'Agde right now. http://www.capechecs.com/direct.php |
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