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| myschkin: . . .
like e.g. http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquar... * European Amateur Boxing Championships (timeline):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe... According to what you already found it looks as if we're speaking about the years prior to 1926 - ergo the I. European Championships (1925, Stockholm)?! * http://www.maxeuwe.nl/loopbaan.html (in Dutch) lists <boxing ~ boksen> as a hobby. On page 14, Reinfeld "The Joys of Chess" (1961) states that Max Euwe was an excellent swimmer, boxer, and flier. IMHO "Amateur heavyweight boxing champion of Europe" ~ hoax |
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Jun-29-09
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| SirChrislov: How do you pronounce his last name? is it ee-u-wee? |
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Jun-29-09
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| SirChrislov: nevermind, there's a whole discussion about it one page 1. UR-veh. |
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| Jun-30-09 |
| xSmashOrBeSmashedx: For anyone else interested, a Dutch editor at BoxRec.com (international pro & amateur Boxing records) has confirmed to me that Max Euwe was NOT ever the amateur heavyweight boxing champion of Europe, although it is known by sports fans in the Netherlands that he was a keen amateur boxer as well as their only Chess world champion. |
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Jul-31-09
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| euripides: Euwe's performance in 1948 has always been a bit enigmatic. It seems the doctor was literally the victim of his own medicine: http://www.chesscafe.com/hans/hans.... |
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| Sep-02-09 |
| kooley782: Is Euwe still alive today? He seems like a wonderful person and chess player. "There's something wrong with that man. He's too normal."-Bobby Fischer -Ethan |
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| Oct-22-09 |
| CeeFoR: He died in 1981. |
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| Jan-03-10 |
| Putakti: I could not imagine Max Euwe being only labeled as the Greatest Amateur Chess Champion as stated in http://chess-amateur.blogspot.com/ Well, according to this article he won the world amateur chess before... |
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Jan-03-10
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| dakgootje: <How do you pronounce his last name? is it ee-u-wee? nevermind, there's a whole discussion about it one page 1. UR-veh.>
First answers aren't per definition the best. For instance, both the r and the v are incorrect. To quote from page 4, which is rather accurate:
<Tim Krabbe had the best tip for english speakers. Remember Peter Sellers ordering a "room" in his silly French accent. Sort of like reum. Thats the "EU" and the "WE" is like the "we" in jewel. I hear you practicing ;-) > |
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| Jan-03-10 |
| paladin at large: R and WE sounds are wrong. The best advice for a native English speaker is to say U as in PUT, followed be VE as in VET. |
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Jan-03-10
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| dakgootje: <R and WE sounds are wrong.> In which explanation? The UHR-vuh explanation in the profile has no WE and the explanation of Tim Krabbé has no R :D In any case, I don't agree with <The best advice for a native English speaker is to say U as in PUT, followed be VE as in VET>. - The sounds u in 'put' and ou 'through' are written in Dutch as the combination <oe>, not <eu>. - The <WE>-sound is correct however, as the 'w' and 'v' sounds are closely comparable in English and Dutch. Just trust the Dutch on the matter of how to pronounce Dutch names. [fwiw: Yes, Tim Krabbé is Dutch.] |
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Jan-03-10
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| achieve: [Eu][we]
[Eu] sounds like "deux" in french, or like schön in german, eg, "Danke schön!" [we] like in "umm" "dust" "luck" "luv it" or the french "le" Now go and practise before asking *again*!
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Jan-03-10
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| tamar: <Jun-29-02 Sneaky: Once and for all, how do you pronounce his name?> LOL |
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Jan-03-10
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| achieve: Know the actor: Burt Reynolds ?
Vowel sound in [we] like Bu(h) (vuh) as in above example. Another fine actor: William HU(rt)
Good "luck." |
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Jan-03-10
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| Calli: I have added a section on the pronunciation of Euwe to the bio. Now there should be no more controversy ;-) |
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Jan-04-10
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| dakgootje: <I have added a section on the pronunciation of Euwe to the bio. Now there should be no more controversy ;-)> Great site you found there! I will bet you 100 chessbucks the question will be posed at least once again before the end of the year however! [which at the current pace of this page shouldn't take more than 2 pages :P] |
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Jan-09-10
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| maxi: Interesting stuff, Dutch pronunciation. Is Schuffelen pulling our collective leg? But even more relieving than learning how to pronounce "Euwe" was learning how to pronounce "Gouda". |
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Jan-09-10
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| gezafan: There has been some discussion that Euwe was the weakest World Champion. This is silly. It's like having a discussion on who the poorest billionaire is. "Weak" and "Euwe" don't belong together. |
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Jan-10-10
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| achieve: <"Weak" and "Euwe" don't belong together.> Well said. It's the "weak ones" themselves that engage in such stupid discussions. And they come in large numbers. |
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| Jan-10-10 |
| micartouse: I believe Euwe appreciation is incomplete without mention of his attacks against the enemy king, which were cold, fast, and sharp like a knife. So I've started a game collection with a few basic examples of his persistent aggression: Game Collection: Euwe's kingside attacks |
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| Jan-10-10 |
| Alphastar: It always makes me laugh when I hear non-dutch people try to pronounce "Scheveningen". |
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Jan-10-10
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| achieve: Spelling as well; you'll see a lot of "schevenigen" pop up when search kibitzing... But "Scheveningen" gets mangled a lot, yeah.
<micartouse> Thanks for that Games Collection; I'll be checking that one out, for sure! |
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Jan-10-10
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| maxi: OK, wise Dutch guys, how do you pronounce "Scheveningen"? |
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| Jan-11-10 |
| Petrosianic: <There has been some discussion that Euwe was the weakest World Champion.> In one category he was the strongest. He, like Spassky in 1972, played a match where he was far too focused on his opponent's happiness, to the exclusion of his own. And yet he somehow managed to win with a mindset like that. <This is silly. It's like having a discussion on who the poorest billionaire is.> Yes, but there's method to the madness. In what other way could could people like us diss the <play> of a world champion, except by comparing him to other world champions? We're sure not going to do it comparing it to our own. |
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Jan-15-10
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| keypusher: <Petrosianic> is posting contemporaneous excerpts from Chess Life and Chess Review about the arrangements for the 1948 world championship match-tournament on the Reshevsky page. They're all worth reading, but I figured this characteristically selfless declaration by Euwe should be posted here. It's taken from Chess Review, July 1947: <Euwe emphasized that getting something done must overshadow personal ambitions. If necessary, he said, let Botvinnik assume the title in order to give the title tangible form. Then world championship candidates would no longer have to fight ghosts: there would be someone to challenge.> |
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