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May-26-22 | | Olavi: Indeed the Russian wiki also. I think I side with Soviet propaganda here. |
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Oct-31-22
 | | Chessical: Chessdom are reporting that Karpov has suffered a serious injury: <FIDE President Arkady Dvorkovich stated for Championat, “According to my information, Karpov’s condition is stable,” Championat adds that the initial reports from Russia are that doctors diagnosed the grandmaster with a closed craniocerebral injury and a fracture of the left femur, as well as severe alcohol intoxication.> chessdom.com/anatoly-karpov… #Karpov |
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Oct-31-22 | | Messiah: <Chessical: Chessdom are reporting that Karpov has suffered a serious injury: <FIDE President Arkady Dvorkovich stated for Championat, “According to my information, Karpov’s condition is stable,” Championat adds that the initial reports from Russia are that doctors diagnosed the grandmaster with a closed craniocerebral injury and a fracture of the left femur, as well as severe alcohol intoxication.> chessdom.com/anatoly-karpov… #Karpov> Probably he was about to get drafted to the army, the 'special military operation' is such a colossal success. putinist pig |
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Oct-31-22
 | | monopole2313: Lord have mercy. I pray that he recovers. |
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Oct-31-22
 | | offramp: Stephen W Giddins says,
@SteveWGiddins
Replying to @XSovietNews
<Interestingly, a former PwC Moscow colleague told me he was at a client reception a few years ago and drunk a vast amount of wine, even going round at the end, emptying others' abandoned glasses. Maybe he has succumbed to the "Russian disease" in recent years. Sad if so.> |
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Oct-31-22
 | | MissScarlett: Karpov issued a statement from his private hospital wing, thanking doctors for the 'special medical operation' but denying that he was legless: 'My right one feels as good as ever. It was a complete accident - I simply tripped over my stamp collection.' |
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Oct-31-22
 | | offramp: To assist his recovery, the monks from the Abbey at Buckfast (Devon) have sent him a crate of tonic wine. I am sure he will feel better immediately. |
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Oct-31-22 | | Amarande: <MissScarlett: I pass on this information, conscious that the chess biographical community shows little apparent interest in the family affairs of the great players.> This seems noticeable, and I expect it's likely because of the nature of chess and its devotees compared to those of more "normal" sports and entertainment. In most sports (and even a lot of other entertainment) the people are the prominent feature and frequently the actual event is merely a backdrop - i.e., people are watching for a favorite player or celebrity. It's why a lot of TV shows and movies that an uninvested viewer would instantly dismiss as tedious, dull, low-effort hogwash etc. are so popular, after all: the people, rather than the production, are the draw. In chess, the game is the front and center feature by a country mile, to the point that the players are primarily of interest because they have delivered interesting games, or interesting theory to the game. The production, rather than the people, are the draw (as anyone who grew up on Reinfeld books in particular is especially aware, as he almost always redacted players' names and events from games and positions he cited to the point it can actually be a challenge sometimes to locate that information). As a result, the families of chess players tend to be the most distant of backdrops, only really of interest to the most dedicated of historians and biographers, unless those family members were also chess players (as with, e.g., Paul Morphy's father and uncle), in stark contrast to most spectatorial events (how many celeb magazine covers are "I'M PREGNANT!!" announcements or about who the star is dating today rather than about what she actually starred in?). This also noticeably shows in how muted the reaction of the playerbase to a player's deeds outside the game are; chess, by and large, has been a sport in which fans have been largely very forgiving of even some of the most questionable deeds of players, e.g., Alekhine, Bogo, Fischer, and Karpov, as well as the whole matter of so many prominent GMs being Soviets during the height of the Cold War. Cancel culture holds very little sway here, whereas in events that are about celebrity first and the subject matter second, it reigns to the point that most celebrities can often barely so much as breathe without taking into account the effect on their reputation. |
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Oct-31-22
 | | Fusilli: <Amarande>
<In most sports (and even a lot of other entertainment) the people are the prominent feature and frequently the actual event is merely a backdrop - i.e., people are watching for a favorite player or celebrity. It's why a lot of TV shows and movies that an uninvested viewer would instantly dismiss as tedious, dull, low-effort hogwash etc. are so popular, after all: the people, rather than the production, are the draw.> Interesting theory. I wonder if the key factor is not where the focus of fans (of any endeavor) is but the number of fans. The media could start reporting (with any dose of hyperbole) every single piece of gossip on Carlsen, Nepo, or others, and few people would care. But wouldn't that also be the case if they reported on every piece of gossip on fly fishing, backgammon, or falconing greats? Yes, yes... chess fans outnumber fans of those other pursuits comfortably, but we are still, in the big picture, a limited bunch. I would assume that there is a threshold (of potential consumers of gossipy news) below which the media won't care, rather than chess enthusiasts being of an enlightened nature. (In fact, whenever I hang out with any group of competitive chess players, gossip on chess players tends to be quite a favored topic of conversation.) Now, in support of your theory... Specialized chess media (as opposed to mass media) pays nearly no attention to gossip on the greats, while specialized popular sports media does. And I don't know how to fit the Hans Niemann affair (which went around the world in mainstream media) into my threshold theory. |
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Oct-31-22
 | | Fusilli: Fun fact. When you google Anatoly Karpov, the main hit says "Member of the State Duma"... former world chess champion, apparently, is less relevant than that! |
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Oct-31-22 | | vonKrolock: Igor Sushko on Twitter: <"In critical condition in induced coma"> |
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Oct-31-22
 | | offramp: This will not affect his chess-playing ability. |
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Oct-31-22
 | | MissScarlett: Other reports suggest he's fine. The fog of war indeed. |
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Nov-01-22
 | | Chessical: < Karpov is known as a Putin ultra-loyalist but has called for an end to the war in Ukraine 'so that peaceful people will stop dying.' He is just the latest member of Russia's elite to end up dead or seriously hurt since the invasion began.> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar... |
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Nov-01-22
 | | HeMateMe: Maybe he was out jogging with ray Keene and Michael Steen? |
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Nov-01-22
 | | Williebob: What is The Daily Mail playing at, referring to Karpov firstly as a "lawmaker", then only later, "chess grandmaster", and nowhere mentioning that he was World Champion?
News for the steadfastly ignorant, I guess. |
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Nov-02-22
 | | perfidious: <WillieBob>, maybe the Mail did not like Karpov's style, preferring the elan of Kasparov or some such rot. |
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Nov-02-22
 | | Williebob: <Perf>, Indeed it looks that way.
Be safe out there when picking your favorite Russians, y'all (apologies to Ironmanth) |
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Nov-03-22
 | | Fusilli: <Joshka> Noticed the back door way of bringing up an unproven accusation on the Clintons as part of a largely proven, legitimate comment on Putin. It makes you look disingenuous. It is clear that the culture of this website is to post your kind of comment where it belongs: the Kenneth Rogoff page. Please let those of us who DO NOT come here for politics enjoy the pages that are supposed to be about chess and chess players. Thank you. |
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Nov-03-22
 | | MissScarlett: Three days and no definitive news? |
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Nov-03-22
 | | MissScarlett: <I thought it was non-alcoholic vodka!> |
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Nov-03-22 | | stone free or die: <<Missy> I thought it was non-alcoholic vodka!>> Always the sobering one, our dear <Missy>. |
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Nov-03-22 | | stone free or die: OTOH - good post by <Fusilli>. |
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Nov-04-22 | | Jambow: <Fusilli> Why is one proven and the other unproven? Seems like the unusual circiumstances and obvious connections are about on par with each other? I am not depressed I have no suicidal thoughts and Bill was Not on Little St James. ;0] |
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Nov-04-22
 | | Fusilli: <Jambow> Although I am tempted to reply, I won't, because it's a discussion for the Kenneth Rogoff page. (If you post there, I won't be replying either, though. I gave up on arguing about politics on this website.) |
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