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| TylerD: Hmm... I feel Karpov is gonna be swept away once more... That would mean a disaster ½-3½ loss for him in this match of 4 rounds... Even more devastating than the 1-3 against Kasparov (the rapid section of their September match).... Will kasparov make that 0-4 in December? I wouldn t be surprised. I wish Karpov could give em a little more of a fight, but it is what it is. He is a shadow of his former self. Just 5 years ago he could have beaten them both (Anand and Kasparov)in matches like this... The true spectacle would be Kaspaov Anand, 4 rounds of rapid... I think Kasparov would win such a match; despite being the inactive of the two. |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| TylerD: It is over. 0-1. ½-3½. Not very exciting, as predicted. Sigh... |
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| tpstar: Karpov's legacy as an all-time great is fully secure and he can do whatever he wants. Having said that, maybe for the short term he should focus on training matches against young improving players where the instructive angle is more relevant than the result. He certainly has courage facing Kasparov and Anand like this, and we should applaud Karpov for actively promoting the game. |
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| amadeus: The second KK rapid/blitz match will not be played this year anymore -- http://www.europe-echecs.com/actual... The sponsors pleaded to couple the match with the year of Russia in France, beginning in March 2010. Let's see what will happen. |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| returnoftheking: There is the slight chance that all these games will get Karpov in form again..Guess who is going to be the next Wch now that Kasparov is gone?! |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| The Rocket: "There is the slight chance that all these games will get Karpov in form again..Guess who is going to be the next Wch now that Kasparov is gone?!" LMAO |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| returnoftheking: I am glad you understand it to be a joke. However, he should be able to offer more resistance in these matches. |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| The Rocket: "I am glad you understand it to be a joke. However, he should be able to offer more resistance in these matches." huh? he managed one draw! thats great! given how bad he is nowdays. His record last year for instance was a loss in a classical chess game to a 2200(!) elo player, and this year being a punching bag in san sebastian were he played like a 1900 elo player(no joke) at times(the svidler game for instance). |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| TheFocus: Perhaps Karpov should just accept fate and concede that as a player he no longer has it. But could you imagine if he took a promising player under his wing like Kasparov did with Carlsen. No one can deny that Karpov has a lot to offer, particularly as a coach or trainer. |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| capablancakarpov: <Even more impressive to think Anand and Kramnik, were future Champions themselves, plus Topalov and Kamsky went on to matches for the title (and so should Shirov!).>
You should check your chess knowledges, Topalov was a future champion himself, losing his real FIDE crown against the candidate Kramnik. |
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| whatthefat: <The Rocket: Karpov in the simuls before the match against Anand drew an 1800 elo player.... ... And you cant say the boy was underrated because you achieve your elo by performance ratings...(NOT by the number of games.. like a chess club rating which is dependent on many games to get a high rating.....)> This is completely wrong. You achieve any type of rating by performance ratings. Elo and club ratings use exactly the same system. And it is of course possible to be underrated under any rating system if you are rapidly improving. |
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| whatthefat: Well, let's see here:
Kasparov-Karpov = 3 - 1
Anand-Karpov = 3.5 - 0.5
Therefore, Anand > Kasparov. Right? :P |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: Karpov we love u and all but the time has come for u to quit top level chess. It is embarassing for and it is embarassing for us to see. |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| ycbaywtb: in regards to Karpov's recent performances against elite players, does anyone know at what point Korchnoi began to slide, and how did he adjust, if at all, his playing schedule, or was it adjusted for Korchnoi, maybe in Karpov's case, at some point he just won't get these famous match-ups any longer, but we all appreciate him and he should play whenever and whomever he wants and can play regardless of the results |
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| whatthefat: I think Korchnoi had his first big dip around 2003:
http://ratings.fide.com/id.phtml?ev...
Now there's an idea - Karpov (2619) vs. Korchnoi (2567) next! |
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| parisattack: Sad to see him falter the past year or two. I know quite a few had hoped it was just a temporary break, thought he would do so well against Kasparov. But its been obvious for some time he's in a steep decline as a chess player. Some hold up a long time, others do not. I assume it has something to do with a player's style. Plus I think Anatoli is fat/happy/content and really doesn't put anything into the game. But he gave us some of the best chess, ever! |
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| Nov-02-09 |
| VaselineTopLove: I don't think he has declined in his ability to calculate, or analyze. It's not as if he has been inactive. Most likely his memory is faltering and he is not regularly updating his database of games to include novelties and new variations played since a long, long time and as a result he has fallen behind all those that are actively updating their opening book. |
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| HeMateMe: In his 40s he was taking longer to get through middle game postions, and sometimes would forfeit on time, in an equal position. He would lose on time rather than play quickly and put an inferior position on the board. |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| TylerD: Chessbase today (all the above is chessbase - these are not my words): "Karpov really does have to do at least some remedial work on his game if he is to play any more of these exhibitions," write Mark Crowther in TWIC. "At the moment they're close to being a waste of time." Europe Echecs tells us that the planned match Karpov vs Kasparov, which was scheduled for December 11 to 13 in Paris has been cancelled. But it may still be staged in connection with the Year of Russia in France, which begins in March 2010. Actually we believe that Karpov's poor showing is due to a lack of practice and modern training methods, and that this can be remedied. Let us see what can be done in the coming weeks and months. |
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| Tessie Tura: <Karpov's legacy as an all-time great is fully secure and he can do whatever he wants.> No argument there. If he wants to play he’s certainly earned the right, but it’s no pleasure as a fan to see him get spanked and I can’t imagine the experience is agreeable for him, either. |
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| Nov-05-09 |
| M.D. Wilson: Don't despair too much, guys. Check this out! Smooth criminal... http://visualrian.com/storage/Previ... |
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| keypusher: <tpstar: Karpov's legacy as an all-time great is fully secure and he can do whatever he wants. Having said that, maybe for the short term he should focus on training matches against young improving players where the instructive angle is more relevant than the result. He certainly has courage facing Kasparov and Anand like this, and we should applaud Karpov for actively promoting the game.> Nice post. I do hope he buckles down and works on improving his game. |
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| Nov-05-09 |
| KamikazeAttack: <No argument there. If he wants to play he’s certainly earned the right, but it’s no pleasure as a fan to see him get spanked and I can’t imagine the experience is agreeable for him, either.
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So true. He can play and we can appraise. |
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| Nov-05-09 |
| Astardis: I am a true Karpov fan but I tend to slightly disagree with some of his apologists above. Of course his legacy has long been settled but his recent results just remain very, very sad. Simply because it would take him so (relatively) little to put some effort into his preparation. He certainly has the talent. So all it would take is some serious preparation of, let's say, 5 hours a day... and THAT is sad! |
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| Nov-06-09 |
| The Rocket: the kasparov-karpov match is canceled at least for this year... after anatolys big defeats this year I read on a web-site.. poor guy |
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