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Aug-06-07
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| chancho: Supposedly Schlechter did not bother others for food and suffered his hunger quietly. Can someone who knows Schlechter's life story, post some accurate info on his final days? Thanks. |
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Aug-07-07
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| vonKrolock: <chancho> Life- and chess life - were still just starting to return to normal after 'the great illusion' of WWI. Schlechter engaged in some events - when he travelled to Hungary for a X-mas-New Year Chess event, his colleagues, like Réti, who drew with him in what he related was Schlechter very last game, remarked that he was deeply distressed, surelly suffering the effects of prolongated malnutrition combinated with some - so to say - opportunistic phisical harms. - quoting from my own post from page 3 here:<The end of Schlechter was really tragic - he was in Budapest in the end of the grim year of 1918 to play in a Chess tournament - but he was ill, and becoming weaker day after day - he prepared a return to Vienna (he wanted to see his mother in Christmas and Reveillon), but in the train-gare his luggage and all money was stolen - he went to Budapest Chess Club, the fellows helped him - and he prepared to travel again, but fainted to his last sleep - he died in Budapest, and so far i know, was buried there> |
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Aug-07-07
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| whiteshark: <vonKrolock> Do you think this is Schlechter's last game ?
Schlechter vs Reti, 1918 |
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Aug-07-07
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| chancho: <vonKrolock> Thanks for the info. |
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Aug-07-07
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| vonKrolock: <whiteshark> Yes, it is, well spotted!... And we'll not wonder not to find this game in other on-line bases - our source was a BCM (or another english mag?!) from the 70's or 80's, in an article titled "The Great Schlechter", or something like this - I was not a subscriber of the magazine, this material was pointed out to me by Holzmann, our local chess historian, and I copied the moves of the game in the occasion... |
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Sep-17-07
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| keypusher: Schlechter had a remarkable match record, if chessmetrics is to be trusted. He beat Janowsky soundly in 1902, lost a short match to Rubinstein in 1918, and drew every other match he played! Two against Marco, one against Zinkl, one against Alapin, one against Janowsky, one against Teichman, one against Tarrasch, and (of course) one against Lasker. So, +1-1=8 -- his exact match score against Lasker in 1910. *spooky music plays* http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play... |
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| Sep-17-07 |
| xeroxmachine: Hoho no match fur da Schloschterman. He movoved with da pioces and slammed da Janowkso, Teichomonano and da Tarrascho bam bam and Macro to twice, thonk yo and good night. |
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| Oct-08-07 |
| laskereshevsky: The bio: <...He did contest one further tournament in Berlin in 1918, just a few weeks before dying of malnutrition.> he dyied 1918-Dec-27; in Budapest, Hungary
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Oct-09-07
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| vonKrolock: <laskereshevsky> The Berlin Tournament was a double round-robin, played in October 1918 (1-st Lasker 4 1/2, 2-nd Rubinstein 4 - Schlechter was third with +0-2=4).
Budapest 1918 was really Schlechter's last Tourney - Her arrived there in December 11th, and appeared already as a shadow of himself: He had a very concerning appearance, and in the Tournament he scored a poor 1 1/2 in 8 (although it was not a Super-GM T like those he used to attend...)
His last Chess event was a simultaneous display in December 21st, a so called 'Four Hands Simul' with the hungarian master Abonyi. Two days after he prepared his return to Vienna - cf. already told in this forum above. |
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Oct-09-07
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| Resignation Trap: Here's a group photo from Berlin 1918, Schlechter's last tournament. He already looks thin and frail: http://rogerpaige.me.uk/historicalp... . |
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| Oct-09-07 |
| laskereshevsky: <vonKrolock:>
A very detailed report....
I already know about the berlin 1918 results, and the simul in cooperation with Abonyi, but i didnt ever heard about the 1 1/2 points Budapest tournament..... |
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| Dec-21-07 |
| Owl: Does anyone have a website or any information about Schlecter chess matches career. |
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Dec-21-07
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| Karpova: From the biography: <Schlechter continued to play in international events in the hopes of getting another shot at the championship, but the outbreak of the First World War effectively ended his chess career. He did contest one further tournament in Berlin in 1918, just a few weeks before dying of malnutrition.> First, he played a match against Rubinstein (January 21 to January 29, Rubinstein won 3.5 to 2.5) then he played a tournament in Berlin, April 1918 (He came in third, other contestants were Vidmar, Mieses and Rubinstein). He went on playing another tournament in Berlin (September to October 1918, other contestants were Lasker, Rubinstein and Tarrasch) where he also came in third.
And then, as <VanKrolock> noted, he played another tournament - but not in Berlin, but in Budapest - and this one was really a few weeks before he died, on December 27. |
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Dec-22-07
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| Karpova: <Karpova: then he played a tournament in Berlin, April 1918 (He came in third, other contestants were Vidmar, Mieses and Rubinstein)>
Sorry, he only came in third in the second tournament in Berlin. In this (the first one) he was the runner-up behind Vidmar. |
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| Dec-22-07 |
| Owl: I asked for his match career not tournament career |
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Dec-22-07
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| amadeus: Try chessmetrics: http://db.chessmetrics.com/CM2/Play... |
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Feb-05-08
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| brankat: It looks like only 1 Schlechter's game from Budapest, 1918 is listed in CG.com database. Apparently it was his very last game, against R.Reti, a Draw. The records say he played 8 games (1.5 points) in the tourney. Where could one find the other 7 scores? Thank You. |
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| Feb-05-08 |
| nescio: <Where could one find the other 7 scores?> I have looked in a few databases but I don't think you'll find them there. Your best chance seems to be http://www.amazon.com/Schlechters-c...
Last year somebody found the game Schlechter vs Tartakower, 1917, which also isn't to be found in the databases, for me in that book. |
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Feb-05-08
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| brankat: <nescio> Thank You. I'll check it out. |
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Feb-05-08
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| Calli: Only one other game from Schlechter's last tournament has been found, a loss vs Breyer. [Event "Budapest"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1918.12.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Schlechter, Carl"]
[Black "Breyer, Guyla"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A55"]
[PlyCount "104"]
[EventDate "1918.12.14"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d6 3. c4 Nbd7 4. Nc3 e5 5. e4 c6 6. g3 g6 7. Bg2 Qe7 8. O-O
Bg7 9. b3 O-O 10. Ba3 exd4 11. Nxd4 Nc5 12. f3 Nfd7 13. Nce2 f5 14. exf5 Qe3+
15. Kh1 Nd3 16. Bc1 Nf2+ 17. Rxf2 Qxf2 18. Bf4 Re8 19. Rc1 Ne5 20. g4 Nxg4 21.
fxg4 Bxd4 22. Bg3 Qxe2 23. Qxd4 gxf5 24. Qf4 Qxg4 25. Qxd6 Be6 26. h3 Qh5 27.
Qf4 Bf7 28. Rg1 Bg6 29. Bh4 Qe2 30. Qc7 Qe5 31. Qxb7 Qd4 32. Bg5 f4 33. Qxc6
Be4 34. Bxe4 Qxe4+ 35. Qxe4 Rxe4 36. Bxf4+ Kf7 37. Bg3 Ke6 38. c5 Kd5 39. Bd6
Re2 40. b4 Rxa2 41. b5 Rb2 42. Rd1+ Kc4 43. b6 axb6 44. cxb6 Rxb6 45. Bh2 Rb3
46. Rd2 Rxh3 47. Rf2 Kd5 48. Kg2 Rc3 49. Rf5+ Ke6 50. Re5+ Kf6 51. Re2 Rg8+ 52.
Kf2 h5 0-1
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Feb-05-08
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| vonKrolock: <Calli> Thanks, very interesting - Maybe also the cross-table could also be traced?! - On the Schlechter-Reti drawn game: The BCM article <"The Great Schlechter"> quoted Reti statement that it was Schlechter's very <Last Game> - Well, I'm not affirming myself that it was their game from the Tournament! |
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Feb-05-08
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| Calli: Yes, the crosstable is available. It was a double round with 5 players: Balla, Reti 5.5
Breyer 4.5
Havasi 3
Schlechter 1.5
A very sad end. Schlechter was clearly in bad shape.
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Mar-02-08
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| Knight13: A great player who did really well in Lasker-Schlechter World Championship Match (1910). What a shame he didn't become a world champ. |
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Mar-02-08
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| Open Defence: yeah the way he ended his days was probably a greater shame... but a great player, his games are very instructive... unfairly criticized as boring I might add not unlike some very prominent players of today |
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May-16-08
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| Knight13: Chessmetrics Player Profile: Carl Schlechter
Born: 1874-Mar
Died: 1918-Dec
Best World Rank: #2 (3 different months between the December 1906 rating list and the February 1907 rating list ) Highest Rating: 2764 on the January 1911 rating list, #3 in world, age 36y10m Best Individual Performance: 2814 in Janowsky-Schlechter II (Karlsbad), 1902, scoring 7.5/10 (75%) vs 2720-rated opposition |
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